Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Detective got tough with Duke students (Herr Gottlieb's Record)
Raleigh News & Observer ^ | September 9, 2006 | Michael Biesecker, Samiha Khanna and Matt Dees

Posted on 09/09/2006 2:39:24 AM PDT by abb

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 421 next last
To: abb

That's because of diligent people like you!! :>


61 posted on 09/09/2006 5:20:23 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

Comment #62 Removed by Moderator

To: All
Gottlieb - the DUKE HUNTER
63 posted on 09/09/2006 5:57:26 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: abb
Still, some in Trinity Park cite Gottlieb as a dedicated officer.

Some say...

64 posted on 09/09/2006 6:21:06 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fido969

Does anyone know if the Trinity Park resident Lee Coggins quoted in the Gottleib article is the same Lee Coggins mentioned in the below article. That Lee Coggins mentioned that she wants to get more politically active.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/03/27/MNGOF5SE2A1.DTL


65 posted on 09/09/2006 8:48:49 PM PDT by old whippersnapper (de oppresso liber)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: All

How about that woman in the article that lives right there by the LAX players - she claims she had seen Mark Gottlieb at Vigils for domestic violence.

1) Maybe her attendance at Domestic Violence vigils exposes a motive for her to support the AV and the prosecution's witnesses?

2) Was this the DUKE Midnight Vigils held where the Posters of the LAX players were handed out to the angry crowd?
If so, where's the genuineness in Gottlieb attending that?
Her attendance would also be explained if it was the Vigils to protest and call for the lynching of the Duke players, due to her living right there in the proxity of the alleged sexual assault.

The N&O bent over backwards at the end of that article to rehab Gottlieb. I think the N&O threw that piece together when they got word the Gottlieb had been placed on disciplinary leave (just my theory) - it was like 5 people involved - 3 authors and 2 research specialists. Highly irregular, you know.


66 posted on 09/09/2006 9:41:56 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Mike Nifong

Still dragging in Durham.

http://www.kinston.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=39044&Section=Local


67 posted on 09/09/2006 10:14:21 PM PDT by old whippersnapper (de oppresso liber)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: old whippersnapper

Odd that they got a government teacher to comment on a legal issue? I think some in Durham and NC may be surprised how the courts deal with the speedy trial issue in this case.

One way to get the courts to slap you down is to abuse defendants like Nifong is doing. NC may find they have the strictest speedy trial rules in the nation forced upon them by the federal courts because they could not find a way to reign in Nifong. Many times the courts have pushed the law along because they were offended by the actions of the state. I would guess that Miranda was one such situation.


68 posted on 09/10/2006 1:30:29 AM PDT by JLS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: All

Warrant backlog drops by nearly 26,000

BY BRIANNE DOPART, The Herald-Sun
September 9, 2006 8:32 pm

DURHAM -- A Durham Police Department backlog of unserved warrants has dropped from an estimated 35,000 to 9,300 in a less than four months.

But officials acknowledge it's not because the paperwork has been dealt with.

City Manager Patrick Baker says the numbers differ because the city never had 35,000 unserved warrants to begin with -- he thinks.

"I've never understood the numbers [of warrants] and how they're calculated. I think some of those warrant [counts] have been a little bit of hyperbole," Baker said.

The 35,000 figure, mentioned at a City Council meeting in late May, must have been an exaggeration, he said. The council also was told that the Police Department didn't have enough people to handle the warrant backlog.

If officials did exaggerate, Baker said, it was only to communicate that there were "several thousand" warrants that had gone unserved.

At the May meeting, Police Chief Steve Chalmers told the council that the warrant-serving system is "certainly not working."

At the same meeting, Chalmers briefly entertained the notion of handing the city's unserved warrants over to the Sheriff's Office, which was easing its own, smaller backlog at a rate of 450 warrants a month, sheriff's Lt. Adam Clayton said.

When questioned in mid-July about the city's backlog, police spokeswoman Kammie Michael told the Herald-Sun the city had counted its warrants and found 10,200 unserved ones.

Michael did not offer an explanation for the difference between 35,000 in late May and 10,200 in mid-July. She also did not respond to questions about how the Police Department's records division tallies such numbers.

Chalmers, meanwhile, said he had never seen a number "in print" about the unserved warrant total.

"If someone had seen it and told me, I would've taken issue with it," he said.

The chief said he delivered a report about unserved warrants to the city's Crime Cabinet years ago and recalled a backlog then of about 7,000. A number as high as 35,000 would have sent up red flags for him because it would have been implausible, he said.

Baker said he didn't know "the methodology" behind the 35,000 figure.

"I would expect that we've taken hundreds if not thousands of warrants off that number by now, though," he added.

The newly served warrants he referred to were handled by the Police Department's Gang Unit, whose members were pulled off their regular duties July 24 to deal with the warrant problem.

Michael said that, in a period of 24 days, the 30-officer unit served 203 warrants in 533 attempts.

Final numbers have not been released. But Chalmers said he hoped to receive a full report by early October.

Baker said he was pleased with the unit's work. But he said he didn't want his "Gang Unit serving warrants all day" when other work needed to be done.

Eventually, the Police Department will have to form a squad dedicated to serving warrants, possibly modeled after the sheriff's squad, Chalmers said.

He emphasized that the city's backlog did not include warrants for serious crimes. Most unserved warrants are for failure to appear in court and summonses for worthless checks.

Baker agreed.

"We're not sitting on murder warrants," he said. "But there is a type of people that build up on their criminal activity. ... They move on to something bigger and bigger."

URL for this article: http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-768311.html


69 posted on 09/10/2006 2:22:02 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: bjc

mark


70 posted on 09/10/2006 4:12:53 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: abb
Warrant backlog drops by nearly 26,000

This and the arrests of the Latino prostitutes are just CYA actions stemming from all the criticism the DPD has been getting.

71 posted on 09/10/2006 5:34:57 AM PDT by CondorFlight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: abb
Another computer "glitch?"

"But there is a type of people that build up on their criminal activity. ... They move on to something bigger and bigger."

Wonder if there are any unserved warrants for the AV? ... alternate spelling, of course.
72 posted on 09/10/2006 6:11:35 AM PDT by maggief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: abb

Maybe the 25,700 warrants that went away went the same place Nifong's timeline and Gottleib's contemporaneous notes on the Duke hoax case went?


73 posted on 09/10/2006 6:29:37 AM PDT by old whippersnapper (de oppresso liber)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: old whippersnapper

Small world ...

Lee Coggins is the Senior Account Executive for Independent Weekly. She set up one of the listservs for Trinity Park.

Another active listserv subscriber is resident Christina Headrick, who just happens to be a former reporter for the N & O.

http://www.newsobserver.com/978/story/426413.html



Here's an article she wrote with Joseph Neff.

http://www.newsobserver.com/208/story/254152.html


Here's a sampling from the listserv:

(no direct link)

leeannecoggins
Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:22 am

Thanks Christina,

Do you think that since you used to be a reporter, that the N&O or the H-Sun would let you write an editorial about this? It's really frustrating. It seems like everything you & BlueSparc worked on was a waste of time. You'd especially think that you would have gotten a response from the city manager after all this. I would think that it's a good time for the rest of the community to stand behind you and say that we do need these ordinances.

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: TrinityPark@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Christina Headrick
Sent: Thu 4/13/2006 7:38 AM
To: gronberg@...; trinitypark@yahoogroups.com; tstith@...
Subject: [TrinityPark] Disorderly House ordinances

Attached is the information that we provided the city manager (twice) last year, although he did not follow-up on it with us to tell us why nothing was done. We were promised a follow-up, but got no response.

(Trinity Heights, a Duke representative, the city attorney's office, and the police department were all at the meetings we had, too.)

I still haven't gotten a response to my recent e-mail either, inquiring what happened.

-- Christina Headrick
Trinity Park

(snip)


74 posted on 09/10/2006 6:32:07 AM PDT by maggief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: maggief
Lee Coggins is the Senior Account Executive for Independent Weekly. She set up one of the listservs for Trinity Park. Good catch. So maybe she isn't just a disinterested neighbor, but had an axe to grind. And the N & O sounds more and more like it is in competition for the 'Pravada of the year' award for 2006--'most slanted reporting designed to accomplish a social goal. . .'
75 posted on 09/10/2006 7:36:37 AM PDT by CondorFlight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: maggief
Maggie, thanks for the info -- it is indeed a small world. The article you linked that Headrick wrote with Joseph Neff was well written. Interesting that it concerned a case where a judge ordered a new trial for a man on the grounds that "the state did not provide all the exculpatory evidence that it had in its possession". Part of the withheld evidence was a recorded conversation with the "state's star witness where she said she 'had to make up a story'". Having a "star witness" fabricate a story and the state withholding evidence does seem to be a pattern here.

The VICTIM in this case (i.e., the accused) was acquitted on retrial.


http://www.truthinjustice.org/Alan-Gell.htm
76 posted on 09/10/2006 7:41:05 AM PDT by old whippersnapper (de oppresso liber)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: old whippersnapper; CondorFlight

I can understand frustrations of residents over some of the behavior of Duke students, though it's becoming clear how some residents may have fueled the Duke LAX case fire to further their agenda.

Another Lee Coggins entry from the listserv:

Fri Nov 4, 2005 5:51 am

RE: [TrinityPark] Zero Tolerance

I live across from (redacted), where all the boys moved out last week after being arrested when one of the partyers threw a bottle at me. Initially, we were really excited that they moved out, but Monday, Trinity Properties was back at the house showing it to a new kid who clearly wanted to live in a party house. Luckily, we were in the yard so we approached them to talk about it. I informed the student fo the Zero Tolerance policy and he was really freaked out. The TP representative was really angry that we scared him off and accused us of being unreasonable and that we needed to be more tolerant, since we did live ON a college campus. (This is how Guy Solie and Trinity Properties views us)

(snip)


77 posted on 09/10/2006 7:59:29 AM PDT by maggief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: old whippersnapper

We've posted this story before, perhaps because one of the defense attorneys was Joseph Cheshire V.

Ironic.


78 posted on 09/10/2006 8:01:34 AM PDT by maggief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: maggief
I've wondered all the time if the complaints made by Bissy et. al. weren't encouraged by Duke, as a way of ultimately ending frats and athletics (after all, the univ. couldn't really complain about their behavoir in the same way if these organizations were still on the campus). Maybe the liberal admin. types in effect caused much of the problem.
79 posted on 09/10/2006 8:35:47 AM PDT by CondorFlight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: CondorFlight


Anybody ever hear if the dna results came back for the Fresno football rape case?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/13/national/main1798840.shtml

(July 13)
"Lawyer Jack Revvill said Davis was providing DNA samples that would show he did not have sex with the girl, who investigators say may have wandered into the apartment complex where the two men lived."


80 posted on 09/10/2006 8:40:22 AM PDT by CondorFlight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 421 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson