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Safety suit didn't fit Irwin image
The Australian ^
| September 09, 2006
| Hedley Thomas and Michael McKenna
Posted on 09/08/2006 9:48:00 PM PDT by FreedomCalls
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This is the best account of the events I've read. It's far more than just about the vest -- it details all the events surrounding Steve's death.
To: FreedomCalls
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posted on
09/08/2006 9:49:30 PM PDT
by
Toby06
To: FreedomCalls
Does the barb shoot off of the tail or stay attached???
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posted on
09/08/2006 9:52:12 PM PDT
by
Suzy Quzy
("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
To: Suzy Quzy
I think it just breaks off after the tail impales it in something. I'm not really sure though.
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posted on
09/08/2006 9:56:16 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Toby06
Coulda woulda shoulda?Didn't.
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posted on
09/08/2006 9:57:02 PM PDT
by
IncPen
(Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
To: FreedomCalls
Maybe somebody will know.
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posted on
09/08/2006 9:57:19 PM PDT
by
Suzy Quzy
("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
To: FreedomCalls
Yes, I was glad to see this posted yesterday. *Everyone* should take some time to read it who is posting on the Irwin threads. We are mourning the loss of this dear soul.
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posted on
09/08/2006 9:59:01 PM PDT
by
Rte66
To: FreedomCalls
Whoever wrote this article should teach journalism classes. The details are precise and to the point.
Chain mail suits do a good job of spreading out the force of bites and such but they are not particularly good at resisting penetration.
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:03:34 PM PDT
by
43north
(7 of 11 living things are insects. This explains liberals.)
To: FreedomCalls
One thing I've been trying to figure out....does the ray have one barb for it's whole life or, after it shoots it's barb, can it grow another? Just a curiosity. We watched and enjoyed Steve Irwin for years.Then my son grew up and his show wasn't on our TV everyday. He was a treasure and we will still miss him.
To: IncPen
Didn't.
He also didn't wear an approved padded helmet, SPF 400 sunblock, or ultra-reflective arm floaties. Probably didn't even have dental floss on him. You can never be too safe.
To: Suzy Quzy; FreedomCalls
According to Dr. Shipp, when a stingray strikes, it either removes its barb entirely, or breaks it off inside of the victim. When this occurs, doctors must probe the wound to make sure all particles have been removed, so the injury will not result in gangrene. In cases where the barb deeply penetrated, the wound must be enlarged to make sure it is properly cleaned.
http://google.com/answers/threadview?id=762521
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:16:59 PM PDT
by
Zeppelin
(You've been Zarqed !)
To: Zeppelin
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:17:55 PM PDT
by
Suzy Quzy
("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
To: Zeppelin
A freeper wants to know if they only get ONE bab for their lifetime or if they grow a new one if they shoot their original....do you know??
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:19:33 PM PDT
by
Suzy Quzy
("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
To: Suzy Quzy
Some of them have several at a time. They do shed them, whole, from time to time, as well - but have a new one in place when that happens.
The ones at the aquatic petting zoo have them pulled out with pliers and then new growth is trimmed back like toenails, according to the spokesperson I saw for a local aquarium.
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:25:07 PM PDT
by
Rte66
To: 43north
Chain mail suits do a good job of spreading out the force of bites and such but they are not particularly good at resisting penetration. Last year we were watching a shark special and a diver had on one of thse suits. Her hand was bitten and fingers nearly taken off but it wasn't as bad as it could have been. Anyway, the "glove" was crushed into her hand, breaking where the shark had bitten. I don't see how it could protect from a stingray barb.
http://www.jerrylabella.com/stingray.html
Never underestimate the penetrating ability of a stingrays barb, even on the smallest of stingrays. The stingrays barb is designed to penetrate virtually all sorts of dense materials, including wood and leather. And as unbelievable as it may seem, its been documented that large stingrays are able to drive a barb through a boats wooden planks or completely through a persons arm or leg.
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:25:39 PM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
To: Suzy Quzy
The barb, or spine, according to Dr. Shipp, can grow back if broken off, and is actually a modified scale, armored with recurved serrations that are as sharp as razors.
http://www.jerrylabella.com/stingray.html
ah, Google... =P
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:26:00 PM PDT
by
Zeppelin
(You've been Zarqed !)
To: originalbuckeye
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:26:45 PM PDT
by
Zeppelin
(You've been Zarqed !)
To: Suzy Quzy
Ther barb is not actully the "tail" part of the ray which you are probably familiar with and is actually soft and pointed.
The barb grows our from the base of the tail and is usually hidden.
It does grow back.
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:29:02 PM PDT
by
keat
(robust but not offensive)
To: Suzy Quzy; FreedomCalls
Does the barb shoot off of the tail or stay attached???http://www.jerrylabella.com/stingray.html
According to Dr. Shipp, when a stingray strikes, it either removes its barb entirely, or breaks it off inside of the victim.
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posted on
09/08/2006 10:30:12 PM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
To: 43north
Chain mail suits do a good job of spreading out the force of bites and such but they are not particularly good at resisting penetration. As I understand it, the question of what is the diameter of the rings versus the diameter of the barb. If the barb is larger than the rings it will be stopped unless it exerts enough force to break the ring. Most likely the barb will penetrate until the taper of the barb is larger than the rings. This would possibly still allow several inches of barb to penetrate.
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posted on
09/09/2006 5:37:29 AM PDT
by
Fraxinus
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