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Tony Soprano Channeling Sam Spade (Re Sgt. Gottlieb - NY Times Star Witness, Duke Rape Hoax)
Liestoppers ^ | 08-26-2006 | Tony Soprano of Court TV Board Fame

Posted on 08/26/2006 9:33:29 PM PDT by Ken H

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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

And if Himan wasn't green as the grass in the summer in Scotland - there wouldn't be any notes stating the Nifong directed them to arrest him and then told them he wanted to be alerted when he was in Police Custody.

Why wasn't that in Gottlieb's notes? Clayton's? Linwood's?


341 posted on 08/29/2006 11:15:44 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: All

You guys may be right, but from my experience Security guards live to become cops. They're like groupies.


342 posted on 08/29/2006 11:17:25 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: CondorFlight
Don't know, but after what happened to the MILF Man I am sure everyone in the DA's office has taken them down by now if they did. ;)
343 posted on 08/29/2006 11:18:16 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

We need the name, dammit!


344 posted on 08/29/2006 11:18:26 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

No luck from WRAL. The reporter that covered it didn't have the judge's name in her notes.

More good news. They ain't gonna challenge the camera ban...


345 posted on 08/29/2006 11:19:57 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb
She must have skipped class alot in journalism school. ;)
346 posted on 08/29/2006 11:22:24 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: abb

"No luck from WRAL. The reporter that covered it didn't have the judge's name in her notes. "

Well, phone the courthouse and ask.

(And if the reporter was actually in the courtroom, how could you not know the judge's name?)

And what is the name of the security guard who testified?


347 posted on 08/29/2006 11:23:16 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight

"Well, phone the courthouse and ask. "

I mean, the REPORTER should phone the courthouse and ask.


348 posted on 08/29/2006 11:23:47 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight; All

To me it makes sense, he/she wanted to please the Police / DA - that's why the lowly Hecht's security guard never gave an interview, sold his story, or let the cat out of the bag.

Who is it the would've advised him to keep his/her mouth shut?

And while under no obligation, the guard kept totally silent.

He wants to please, IMO.


349 posted on 08/29/2006 11:28:40 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

"He wants to please, IMO."

I'd like to put him on the stand and ask him if Gottlieb
offered him anything.


350 posted on 08/29/2006 11:31:09 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight

http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_21236539.shtml


351 posted on 08/29/2006 12:03:31 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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THIS MAY BE DURHAM's FIRST TWO DAY MISDEMEANOR AIDING TRIAL!


If I was Kim Roberts with $25,000.00 Felony - I'd be very worried !


352 posted on 08/29/2006 12:13:19 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong
There are Hechts at Northgate Mall and The Streets of Southpoint. I don't think Southpoint was open three years ago. Northgate is at least 30 years old. The DPD District 2 substation is at Northgate Mall. N. Buchanan street runs right to the mall. This is the substation to which Kim could have quickly driven Crystal rather than going all the way to the Kroger. N. Buchanan street runs right to the mall.
353 posted on 08/29/2006 12:13:44 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

GOTTLIEB has an office in NorthGATE Mall.

Is that where the shoplifting was?


354 posted on 08/29/2006 12:14:54 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

"THIS MAY BE DURHAM's FIRST TWO DAY MISDEMEANOR AIDING TRIAL!"

DC had a two-day misdemeanor trial for Finnerty, in the midst of a Crime Emergency. That was for shadow-boxing.

I think it's becoming all the fashion now in misdemeanor trials...

Maybe a Duke Law professor would like to write an article for a prestigious legal journal about this new trend in prosecutions. . .


355 posted on 08/29/2006 12:15:31 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight; Locomotive Breath; Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief


BINGO!

GOttlieb has an office at the same mall where the Guard works !!!


356 posted on 08/29/2006 12:17:46 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: All

I knew he had an office there, so I looked for a reference - and found this:

"The accuser viewed the photos at the police substation at Northgate Mall on April 4. Gottlieb told her that she was going to "look at people we had reason to believe attended the party," according to his notes. This differed from the March 16 and 21 lineups, where police gave her specific instructions that the suspect might not be in the lineup: "The person who committed the crime may or may not be included.""

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/468272.html

Wonder who Gottlieb's been going to lunch with?


357 posted on 08/29/2006 12:23:27 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

"GOttlieb has an office at the same mall where the Guard works !!!"

Can Gottlieb be put on the stand and asked if he knows the security guard? (Of course they must know each other--the security guard would at least have spoken to the cops there.)

Did they speak about this case?

How recently, and how often?

(I'm sure Gottlieb has about 30 pages of notes which he "remembers" from 3 years ago, and rewrote from his handwritten 2-pages about the shoplifting. . .)


358 posted on 08/29/2006 12:24:35 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: Mike Nifong

"The accuser viewed the photos at the police substation at Northgate Mall on April 4"

The plot thickens. . .

(Good catch!)


359 posted on 08/29/2006 12:25:56 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: Mike Nifong
I don't know for certain that's where the shoplifting took place, BUT, by process of elimination, the only other Hecht's in Durham is at Southpoint and does not have a police substation (although by Googling I found it was opened in 2002) so it must be Northgate.
360 posted on 08/29/2006 12:26:00 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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