Posted on 08/21/2006 5:54:00 PM PDT by Know your rights
Personally, I don't regularly associate with law-breakers.
I am sure that pedophiles, sex deviates, burglars, and others who ignore the law because it interferes with their interpretation of what should be allowed have the same sense of "the law is wrong", etc.
Selective law-breaking under the guise of "individual rights infringement" is sometimes referred to as Anarchy.
The federal ONDCP budget is nearer to $12 billion and that's for ALL drugs.
That's less than one-half of one percent of the federal budget and covers drug education, anti-drug advertising, drug treatment, overseas interdiction, and domestic border patrol. Which of those programs would you like to eliminate?
Don't flatter yourself.
You spend entirely too much time whining about the constitutional realities. Your posts consist of nothing more than complaining that justices are old and senile, courts are wrong, decisions are poorly made and unjustified, we have no control over Congress, the U.S. Constitution doesn't mean what it says, blah, blah, blah.
You lost touch with reality long time ago. You're living in a fantasy world now, amigo.
Yes indeed, we are all living in the new fantastic world created by socialists like you, paulsen. --- Your factions 'majority rule' policies have lead to a Congress out of control, court decisions are poorly made and unjustified, the U.S. Constitution doesn't mean what it says; ---- and "-- blah, blah, blah --", once again shows us your disdain for that document.
Prohibitionists lost touch with reality long ago, by thinking that repressive laws & big brother gov't are solutions to political problems.
Touche! I enjoy your posts and have learned much from your referenced quotes especially on the banglist. Thanks.
That's less than one-half of one percent of the federal budget and covers drug education, anti-drug advertising, drug treatment, overseas interdiction, and domestic border patrol. Which of those programs would you like to eliminate?
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Let's start with chopping the propaganda -
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Drug Czar on Anti-Marijuana Crusade -- Threatens Canada, Unleashes New Propaganda Offensive 9/20/02
Drug czar John Walters is a busy man these days. Between engineering yet another installment in the Office of National Drug Control Strategy's (ONDCP) bizarre series of ads linking marijuana users to terrorism and violence, trotting out a new offensive aimed at curbing teen pot use, trying to put out brush fires in places like California and Nevada, and threatening to disrupt cross-border trade with Canada if marijuana were legalized there, Walters appears to have a full-blown case of marijuana mania.
THE NEW AD CAMPAIGN:
Beginning this week, TV viewers around the country are being treated to the latest version of the notorious Superbowl "drugs aid terror" commercials, this time targeting marijuana. The text of one ad is as follows: "This is Dan. This is the joint that Dan bought. This is the dealer that sold the joint that Dan bought. This is the smuggler that smuggled the pot to the dealer who sold the joint that Dan bought. This is the cartel that uses the smuggler that smuggled the pot to the dealer who sold the joint that Dan bought. And this is the family that was lined up by Dan's cartel and shot for getting in the way."
A second ad features teen pot-smoker "Stacey," then shows an image of her dealer, then moves up the chain to the person who supplies the dealer. But the final image is of a bed-ridden woman: "This is Carla, who was hit by a stray bullet from Stacey's supplier and paralyzed for life," the voiceover intones ominously.
Walters, who recently had to announce that earlier ONDCP propaganda campaigns had flopped, said this one was different. "These ads are different," he told Good Morning America as part of his media blitz. "We toughened up the behavior not only to look at the harms drugs can do to young people, but using their idealism, their drug buying to things they care about."
But Good Morning America also talked to young people about the ads, and some of their responses cannot be encouraging for Walters. Elisa Roupenian, a college student interviewed on the program, said her friends objected to linking drug use here to violence in other countries. "It made people mad because they pointed the finger at teenagers," she said. "Some people think that if the government didn't create the war against drugs that made such a huge black market, the terrorists and the drug cartels wouldn't be able to make such a tremendous profit," she said.
Nevertheless, expect more such ads to follow. The drug czar has a $1 billion propaganda budget for the next five years.
That's the cost of the potheads to the taxpayers.
Additionally, the losses for crime committed by potheads, and injuries to others, is not even included in that number.
Wow! - I know a lot of citizens who enjoy cannabis - but - I don't know any of the people you are referring to.
I have a different view of the breakdown of the billions of dollars in cost.(winston2)
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(snip)Marijuana addiction is a phenomenon experienced by more than 150,000 individuals each year who enter treatment for their proclaimed addiction to marijuana.(snip) NARCANON
I really don't know what this "treatment for proclaimed addiction to marijuana" costs, but conservatively - I'd say $5,000 per case. That would total to 3/4 of a billion dollars per year that can get paid for by our health insurance companies. We are all paying for this.
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(snip)Marijuana is physically addictive. Each year, 100,000 teens are treated for marijuana dependence.(snip)
The fact is that cannabis use is constantly going up - even as the cost of the propaganda war increases.
A relatively hidden fact is that the majority of "treatment for marijuana dependence" cases are simply a way of avoiding less comfortable quarters at juvenile detention centers for teens. For adults the "treatment" choice usually has much to do with trying to keep one's job.
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That's the logic of the pot proponents, who just think it's okay to have NO LAWS that govern THEIR desires.......
Anarchy don't work..
That's the logic of the pot proponents, who just think it's okay to have NO LAWS that govern THEIR desires.......
Anarchy don't work..
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That's far from what I am saying.
The thing is that our nation has a finite amount of money to spend. (How many trillion dollars national debt is it now days?)
For every marijuana arrest - the police effort could be spent on assault and property events (which are cases in which there was actually a victim). The next time you give up on police apprehending the person who beats up some nice lady or stole your stuff - thank the people who waste your money trying and failing to stop citizens from smoking a joint.
Illegal drug use should be ignored, you think? Maybe speeding is a waste of police time, or traffic violations, or DUI? Which laws should we ignore? Just the ones you don't like? Should each person breaking any law not be entitled to "equal protection", in that they can say "the police ignored the speeder, and picked on me for smoking pot"? Where does it end?
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An interesting thing about children - They are quite good at spotting insincerity and it makes them distrustful of the source.
As adults - we sometimes refer to insincerity as BS government propaganda.
Illegal drug use should be ignored, you think? Maybe speeding is a waste of police time, or traffic violations, or DUI? Which laws should we ignore? Just the ones you don't like? Should each person breaking any law not be entitled to "equal protection", in that they can say "the police ignored the speeder, and picked on me for smoking pot"? Where does it end?
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When automobile accidents that are caused by alcohol use are reduced by half - come back to see me.
In brief - we should punish persons who cause risk or actual harm to others. Someone who grows a cannabis plant and consumes it in privacy does not deserve punishment.
What you think?
• Marijuana affects alertness, concentration, perception, coordination, and reaction time—skills that are necessary for safe driving. A roadside study of reckless drivers in Tennessee found that 33 percent of all subjects who were not under the influence of alcohol and who were tested for drugs at the scene of their arrest tested positive for marijuana.
• Research shows a link between frequent marijuana use and increased violent behavior.
• Young people who use marijuana weekly are nearly four times more likely than nonusers to engage in violence.
• More than 41 percent of male arrestees in sampled U.S. cities tested positive for marijuana.
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High five!
Smarter? No, dumber. Just more adept at making excuses.
Smoking marijuana helps relieve the pain and allows me to do some yoga exercises that reduces the pain through the rest of the day.
Do you have anything to support this ridiculous statement? Can you point me to one story where the police could not respond to an assault or a property event because they were too busy with a marijuana arrest?
Gee, what about all the "victimless" traffic stops the police make? Many more than drug arrests. How many domestic distubances (not ending in an arrest) are they involved in?
Yet you want to focus on drugs.
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