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Flight 93 'was shot down' claims book
The Daily Mail ^ | August 19, 2006 | ROWLAND MORGAN

Posted on 08/20/2006 3:39:56 PM PDT by RDTF

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To: RDTF

You didn't know until now that it was shoot down?

/s


21 posted on 08/20/2006 4:01:36 PM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)
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To: RDTF

Shoot = shot.

UNNNGH..


22 posted on 08/20/2006 4:02:00 PM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)
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To: RDTF
9/11: Debunking The Myths
23 posted on 08/20/2006 4:06:31 PM PDT by jla
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To: RDTF

IF there is complete agreement that the onboard struggle started at 9:58 AM and that the hijackers did intend to crash the aircraft if the passengers stormed the cockpit, then that should be enough. The passengers died heroes.


24 posted on 08/20/2006 4:07:00 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Tom Gallagher - the anti-Crist [FL Governor, 2006 primary])
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To: hsalaw

According to the movie United 93 (by another liberal Brit no less), the American military was completely clueless that day and had aircraft going up in the wrong direction without any weapons, and the military aircraft were no where near any of the hijacked planes. Well what is it liberal Brits are we clueless or mad killers of innocent passengers.


25 posted on 08/20/2006 4:16:12 PM PDT by razzle
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To: RDTF
Instead, the real story is mired in cynical manipulation and warmongering propaganda

Oh, I have no doubt there's cynical manipulation and propaganda going on in this story.

26 posted on 08/20/2006 4:21:14 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: RDTF

Shovelling sensational stuff like this just to make a buck...the guy should be arrested.


27 posted on 08/20/2006 4:37:32 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: RDTF
These people are becoming clowns and very humorous.
28 posted on 08/20/2006 4:38:35 PM PDT by Dallas59 (ISLAMOFASCISM!!!!)
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To: RDTF
You can get laser surgery and be able to see 20/20.

If you lose your hearing you can get a device implanted in your head so you can hear again.

But you just cant fix stupid!---- Ron White

29 posted on 08/20/2006 4:38:43 PM PDT by txroadkill
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To: American_Centurion

Damn straight on your assessment!


30 posted on 08/20/2006 4:44:59 PM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: RDTF

debunked

the whole wreckage 8 miles away thing is total crap


31 posted on 08/20/2006 5:15:38 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: RDTF

Heard the 911 commissioner the other day say the jets weren't even scrambled by then, so 93 couldn't have been shot down. Thought that was interesting, because the movie makes it otherwise.


32 posted on 08/20/2006 6:15:04 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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I have my asbestos gloves on typing this reply....I,like all Americans was glued to the T.V. that day. I live about one hour from the flight 93 crash site. A remember watching the local news and they were reporting finding debris miles away from the crash site. I am just stating what I heard that day. Also I firmly believe all aboard were heroes.
33 posted on 08/20/2006 6:34:59 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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the news got it wrong, the found some papers and fragments that blew away, but no large wreckage at any signifigant distance.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=7&c=y

Roving Engine
CLAIM: One of Flight 93's engines was found "at a considerable distance from the crash site," according to Lyle Szupinka, a state police officer on the scene who was quoted in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Offering no evidence, a posting on Rense.com claimed: "The main body of the engine ... was found miles away from the main wreckage site with damage comparable to that which a heat-seeking missile would do to an airliner."

FACT: Experts on the scene tell PM that a fan from one of the engines was recovered in a catchment basin, downhill from the crash site. Jeff Reinbold, the National Park Service representative responsible for the Flight 93 National Memorial, confirms the direction and distance from the crash site to the basin: just over 300 yards south, which means the fan landed in the direction the jet was traveling. "It's not unusual for an engine to move or tumble across the ground," says Michael K. Hynes, an airline accident expert who investigated the crash of TWA Flight 800 out of New York City in 1996. "When you have very high velocities, 500 mph or more," Hynes says, "you are talking about 700 to 800 ft. per second. For something to hit the ground with that kind of energy, it would only take a few seconds to bounce up and travel 300 yards." Numerous crash analysts contacted by PM concur.

Indian Lake
CLAIM: "Residents and workers at businesses outside Shanksville, Somerset County, reported discovering clothing, books, papers and what appeared to be human remains," states a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article dated Sept. 13, 2001. "Others reported what appeared to be crash debris floating in Indian Lake, nearly 6 miles from the immediate crash scene." Commenting on reports that Indian Lake residents collected debris, Think AndAsk.com speculates: "On Sept. 10, 2001, a strong cold front pushed through the area, and behind it--winds blew northerly. Since Flight 93 crashed west-southwest of Indian Lake, it was impossible for debris to fly perpendicular to wind direction. ... The FBI lied." And the significance of widespread debris? Theorists claim the plane was breaking up before it crashed. TheForbiddenKnowledge.com states bluntly: "Without a doubt, Flight 93 was shot down."

FACT: Wallace Miller, Somerset County coroner, tells PM no body parts were found in Indian Lake. Human remains were confined to a 70-acre area directly surrounding the crash site. Paper and tiny scraps of sheetmetal, however, did land in the lake. "Very light debris will fly into the air, because of the concussion," says former National Transportation Safety Board investigator Matthew McCormick. Indian Lake is less than 1.5 miles southeast of the impact crater--not 6 miles--easily within range of debris blasted skyward by the heat of the explosion from the crash. And the wind that day was northwesterly, at 9 to 12 mph, which means it was blowing from the northwest--toward Indian Lake.


34 posted on 08/20/2006 6:49:46 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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The news that day reported small items such as papers and bits of clothing were found "miles away". I have been to the crash site many times. There are volunteers there with photos of the crash site,they take and answer questions. There is no doubt the impact was terrific. I was told teeth were found embedded in the surrounding trees.


35 posted on 08/20/2006 7:18:52 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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