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Crucial steps in investigation of Karr didn't get under way until after arrest
Contra Costa Times ^ | 8/19/06 | Kirk Mitchell

Posted on 08/19/2006 11:03:11 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

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1 posted on 08/19/2006 11:03:13 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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2 posted on 08/19/2006 11:05:31 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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'or the Justice Department could have been asked to issue a warrant charging Karr with unlawful flight to avoid prosecution'
3 posted on 08/19/2006 11:07:48 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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Maybe but for what?


4 posted on 08/19/2006 11:10:57 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: gopwinsin04

They might as well charge him with the JFK assassination (though he was not born until 1965) while they are at it. He is equally guilty of both.


5 posted on 08/19/2006 11:12:09 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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Wasn't this guy already wanted in California?


6 posted on 08/19/2006 11:12:21 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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Good question, but I think it's a pretty sure bet he did not do it.


7 posted on 08/19/2006 11:12:40 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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Fox News just said that Arkansas wants to talk to Karr about a murder case there...


8 posted on 08/19/2006 11:13:20 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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Interestingly, in Nashville we just wrapped up a very high-profile case (Perry March). He was a lawyer whose wife disappeared in 1996. They never found her body.

Here's the interesting thing. He had moved to Mexico, and they finally indicted him and extradicted him to Nashville last year. It turned out, during his trial, that at the time they arrested March, the state had almost no evidence against him. However, once he got to jail in Nashville, March shot himself in the foot several times - the most important was his trying to hire a cellmate to kill his in-laws (who had been instrumental in his arrest). This meant new charges against March, and his father, who was in on the plot. March's father then copped a plea, and told all (even about the original murder, which he called an "accident")

They just convicted March on murder 2. Amazingly, in my opinion, without March's jailhouse behavior, the case was so flimsy, he would have been acquitted.

The point being, if you can get away with it, arrest can make a great investigative tool. I ain't saying it's right, but it is what it is.


9 posted on 08/19/2006 11:15:56 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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The thing that strikes me so funny about this whole situation is when someone is suspected of a heinous crime such as murder, they scramble for an alibi. Karr's ex-wife alibi'd him out, "oh no, he was in AL with me at the time of the murder"....and he's probably thinking "will someone please shut that damn woman up!"
10 posted on 08/19/2006 11:18:06 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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so - the police should use arrest and imprisonment without bail - as a means of investigation? you're joking I hope.

so, since they always suspect family members as the main suspects in these cases - they are going be arresting alot of husbands/wives/fathers/mothers in this country.


11 posted on 08/19/2006 11:19:34 AM PDT by oceanview
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It sounds like Karr was 1900km from the crime scene according to his ex-wife.


12 posted on 08/19/2006 11:21:43 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Warren_Piece

I have seen the story on this guy on A&E or something. He took the kids to Mexico, grandparents trying to get custody. Pretty messy situation. But, I didn't know he was brought back, and now convicted.


13 posted on 08/19/2006 11:25:06 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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More jurisprudential excellence from Boulder, CO (Home of Ward Churchill - an upstanding citizen if ever there was one).
14 posted on 08/19/2006 11:25:31 AM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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You must conclude either Mary Lacy has solid, conclusive evidence or this is massive prosecutorial incompetence

I vote for massive prosecutorial incompetence.

The entire Boulder law enforcement community makes the Keystone Cops look good.

15 posted on 08/19/2006 11:29:11 AM PDT by vox humana
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Oh, those exigencies will get you every time.....


16 posted on 08/19/2006 11:36:14 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: gopwinsin04

If this were a crime novel, this guy would be a shill taking the fall to clear the late Patsy's name.

Just plain strange.


17 posted on 08/19/2006 11:38:07 AM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: oceanview

Like I said, I don't condone it. They happened to get it right this time (everybody in Nashville "knew" this guy did it - you would have had to be here the last 10 years), and when they arrested him, we all assumed they had the goods on him.

What they had was: love letters from him to another woman that were hidden away by his wife (at her art studio), an appointment with a divorce lawyer the day after she disappeared, a computer hard drive that disappeared between the first search (when he wasn't a suspect) and the second (when he was), her car found at an appartment complex with all of her stuff in it, and fibers that matched the husband, and testimony from some Mexicans that he had said he killed his wife.

IMHO it wasn't enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that 1) she was even dead and 2) he killed her. But even without his jailhouse behavior, the above was enough to convince me that he did it (and most of Nashville, too). But there's a difference between "knowing" he did it, and "proving" it.

Like I said, in this case, the state got lucky. There was nothing heinous about arresting him and trying him with what they had (it was enough to at least try),I just don't think they would have convicted him. Sometimes, you just get lucky.


18 posted on 08/19/2006 11:38:35 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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We have a Colorado University professor at the heart of this case. He's been making a documentary about the killing, all the while corresponding with Karr.

And can anyone imagine a mother being willing to meet with the man suspected with murdering her beloved child.

This case is filled with weird people, very weird people.

19 posted on 08/19/2006 11:39:11 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: vox humana

It's quite possible that this guy is psychotic, in combination with being obsessed with this crime. Sounds like he had a past obsession with the Polly Klaas case, as well. I hope they have more than his "confession". I really don't understand why they didn't try to first establish whether he could have been in Boulder at that time. Also, they could have taken a sample over there for the DNA test. If they had to bring him back, they could have done it based on the child porn and then investigated further without making the possible JBR connection public. None of this makes sense to me.


20 posted on 08/19/2006 11:42:21 AM PDT by drjulie
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