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Backup Sample on Landis Is Positive
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 8-5-2006

Posted on 08/05/2006 2:31:31 AM PDT by Cagey

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To: Vision

Hey....he had three negative samples after that one tested sample, testosterone levels just don't drop artificially that quickly....there ought to have been traces of the synthetic isotope still in his subsequent samples....I think something is stinky here!

One dose of testosterone isn't going to fix his hip problems enough to help him win one stage....something is messed up here!

I would be looking at that lab first and investigating the chains of custody... Why did the press know about the test results before Landis did?


121 posted on 08/07/2006 9:08:23 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: yobid

In a Europe in which a major news organization (Reuters)uses doctored photographs to influence public opinion on the Middle East conflict, is it conceivable that someone in a French lab would tamper with the urine sample of an American cyclist who winds the Tour de France? I think it is. For some reason, I find Landis's denials credible.


122 posted on 08/07/2006 9:23:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: mdmathis6
"I would be looking at that lab first and investigating the chain of custody."

The chain of custody issue also interest me very much. What safeguards -if any - are in place to prevent someone from sabotaging a rider's career by tampering with a sample? To me, the answer, "Oh, don't be ridiculous, we are a professional lab with high standards" isn't good enough.
123 posted on 08/07/2006 9:27:39 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Knowing that a lot of Europeans are pissed at Americans right now, I could see a loyal EU lab person, doctoring the results!


124 posted on 08/07/2006 9:29:58 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: yobid
"the T value returned has been determined to be in the normal range. The E value returned was LOW, thus causing the skewed ratio."

In all that's been said and written about this case, this is the first time that I've heard this.
125 posted on 08/07/2006 9:35:05 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Actually, John Eustice if I've got his name right, the cycling analyst for ESPN, has been talking about the low E value from the beginning,& I believe Floyd's physician might have referenced this in the presser in Madrid or the Larry K int'view as I recall, but you're right - none of the journalists have asked any of those dueling experts out there what that could mean as far as I know. Still, the synthetic test was detected by the mass spectrometer, so that problem doesn't go away.


126 posted on 08/07/2006 3:15:12 PM PDT by leilani ("Vëê möösent letten dð bæstørds gedinken öös dðwn!")
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To: yobid
Finally, a denial with some teeth from Floyd!

Information about an “adverse analytical finding” was prematurely released by the UCI in order “to avoid a known leak” within the lab. A direct statement followed from UCI President Pat McQuaid that left little to infer as to whose test was in question.

I am waiting for one of those brilliant investigative journalists out there to ask Patrick McQuaid if he was so worried about the lab he uses leaking the results that he felt compelled to leak them himself ahead of time (HE DID, INDEED, ACTUALLY SAY THAT!!), is he not troubled by the fact that the lab he's entrusting the fate of these atheletes to might have an agenda outside its supposedly purely scientific one?

127 posted on 08/07/2006 3:20:53 PM PDT by leilani ("Vëê möösent letten dð bæstørds gedinken öös dðwn!")
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To: leilani

Belated reply: If it's true that Landis's T rating was in the normal range, and that the 11/1 ratio was caused by a low E value, then the popular press's characterization of the findings showing abnormally high T levels is wrong. And if the synthetic T is only one component of an overall T rating that is in the normal range, then the quantity of synthetic T must be relatively low, and might be explainable as coming from a legitimate or legal source. (I have no idea what those sources might be - sports drinks, DHEA, Tribulus Terrestris . . . are all over-the-counter bodybuilding substances banned, and do any contain testosterone?) But the idea - widespread in the press - that Landis was bursting with huge quantities of testosterone seems to be a false impression.


128 posted on 08/08/2006 7:34:54 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: leilani

Somehow, Landis's denials ring true to me. He has always had a reputation as a straight shooter and a no BS guy, is incredibly tough, and a hard worker. I still haven't given up on him.


129 posted on 08/08/2006 7:37:03 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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