Carrying Filth: A 2News Investigation [Filthy Purses]

KUTV Salt Lake ^ | 5/21/06 | Shauna Lake

[Straight Vermonter]

Please you're being silly. Dry skin is not a medical emergency. I am sorry for your condition but people use these substances every day. They are perfectly safe for people who are not allergic.

I took your advice and went to the MSDS at the link you provided and look what I found:

NO MEDICAL CONDITIONS ARE KNOWN TO BE AGGRAVATED BY THIS PRODUCT

Maybe you get your "peer review doctor" to point to the pesticide on the ingredient label?

Had enough yet?

[MamaTexan]

Dry skin is not a medical emergency.

Dermatitis is not 'dry skin'. In making such a statement, you show you ignorance. Do a search for images, or go here- http://dermis.multimedica.de/bilder/CD001/550px/img0038.jpg
for an example.
(I'm not so inconsiderate to my fellow FReepers as to post gross pictures around supper-time)

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They are perfectly safe for people who are not allergic.

How do allergies develop?

The skin allergy really begins with a process called sensitization. It starts with the penetration of allergenic substances into the outer layer of the skin. The process lasts from four days to three weeks. During this period there are no signs of skin damage.
http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/diseases/allergic_derm.html

Irritant reactions occur from repeated an accumulated exposure to chemicals.

Most cases of housewife's eczema are ICD resulting from repeated skin exposure to low-grade cutaneous irritants, particularly soaps, water, and detergents. Cumulative ICD from repeated mild skin irritation from soap and water is common.
http://www.emedicine.com/DERM/topic85.htm

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I took your advice and went to the MSDS at the link you provided and look what I found: NO MEDICAL CONDITIONS ARE KNOWN TO BE AGGRAVATED BY THIS PRODUCT

Doesn't say none are CREATED, just not 'aggravated'. Would you post an address to that particular sheet, or give me a product name, please?

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Maybe you get your "peer review doctor" to point to the pesticide on the ingredient label?

Why? It's not that hard to find-
Triclosan, or "diphenyl ether" is assigned a CAS number because the EPA has it listed as a pesticide. (CAS Number: 3380-34-5) United States pesticide registration
http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Country.jsp?Country=United%20States&offset=-1

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Had enough yet?

ROFLMAO!

Of WHAT, exactly. You've not substantiated your claim to the harmlessness of any chemicals or types of products mentioned.

In fact, your entire argument consisting of 'you're silly' followed by unsupported ramblings seems rather puerile.

[Straight Vermonter]

Most cases of housewife's eczema are ICD resulting from repeated skin exposure to low-grade cutaneous irritants, particularly soaps, water, and detergents.

Don't use soap, we're all gonna die!!!

Ahhhhh!!!!!

How do you live being afraid of everything?

Here is the MSDS I was referring to

A quick search of some of the MSDSes on the page you linked to showed them all to use alcohol as the active ingredient. While I am sure that some may use Triclosan it does not appear to be used in the most common brands such as Purel.

When I searched for a hand sanitizer with Triclosan and got its MSDS it lists no health concerns.

But be afraid, be very afraid!

The widowmaker!!!

[MamaTexan]

Don't use soap, we're all gonna die!!!

Now you're being ridiculous.

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How do you live being afraid of everything?

You've shown yourself to be clueless. I'm afraid of very little. People who refuse to use caution when caution has proven itself to be warranted are foolish.

Do you believe everything is safe just because the government tells you it is? Or even worse, when the government doesn't even bother looking at it?

Do you believe your skin is an impenetrable barrier that doesn't absorb anything?
(FYI - If that were the case birth control and nicotine patches wouldn't work)

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A quick search of some of the MSDSes on the page you linked to showed them all to use alcohol as the active ingredient.

Yes. Hand sanitizers contain alcohol and tricolsan is in antibacterial soaps.

Isopropyl alcohol is also commonly used as a cleaner and solvent in industry. It is also used as a gasoline additive for dissolving water or ice in fuel lines. Isopropanol is the main ingredient in rubbing alcohol. It is used as a disinfectant, and is a common solvent.

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Ethanol, also known as grain alcohol, is a versatile solvent. It is miscible with water and with most organic liquids, including nonpolar liquids such as aliphatic hydrocarbons. Organic solids of low molecular weight are usually soluble in ethanol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol

Both types of alcohol are known solvents. You skin can be dissolved just like anything else.

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Believe and act (or don't) in which ever manner you choose.

I can only hope you have a high enough chemical tolerance that you will never have to learn about this via the school of hard knocks.

[GeronL]

Apparently PJ ignores these types of threads