CSPAN airs panel this weekend accusing US gov't insiders of 9/11 attacks and blowing up 3 WTC bldgs

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[sinkspur]

You dishonor those in your family who are serving if you buy into this kookburger 9/11 nonsense.

Ad hominems against me are no defense for a tinfoiler.

[Howlin]

Jones is saying that Bush had the orders to attack Afghanistan on his desk 3 days before the attack -- with the entire U.S. military lined up to go in.

How did we not hear of this before?

[Anthem]

-- So you resort to a completely nonsensical claim that the top of the building was spinning.

Spinning, turning, my choice of terms may have been inexact, but methinks dirtboy doth protest too much. Here's the video.

-- So you resort to a completely nonsensical claim that the top of the building was spinning.

Exact precision is not needed in this size of operation. You clearly don't want to actually refute all the evidence in his report that thermite was probably used. You are a propagandist spouting only phrases that you think people will suck up. I have no idea what your motivation is.

I leave you with a few panels from one of Prof. Jones presentations for the layman that are apropos to this conversation.

[Howlin]

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:7Qs1seycdgQJ:www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/684549/posts+bush+had+plans+to+attack+Afghanistan+on+his+desk&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4

[Mo1]

Is he nuts?

Yep!

[Anthem]

--or are they just in it for the benefits?

Now you're insulting two young officers who are doing their duty. Both are in theater. You can't argue the facts so you go for the cheap shot. Pathetic.

[Howlin]

You're insulting this entire web site with your lunatic ravings.

[Anthem]

--Not to be too picky, but the fire never DID die down.

What expains the photo of the people standing in the opening where the plane went in? (I can dig up the photo, if I must).

I don't endorse this program in toto, because there are some idiot theories floating around. Some would say that those covering up the truth are responsible for them -- creating impeachment by association for any independent scientific analysis.

[Anthem]

--You're insulting this entire web site with your lunatic ravings.

You're opinion. Are the people who can actually understand equation models also lunatics?

[dirtboy]

Oh, I am SO convinced from those slides.

Not.

Your side fails Occam's razor at every step. Planes were flown into the WTC. The impact and ensuing fires made the buildings collapse. Only a lunatic fringe believes otherwise. END OF STORY.

[Howlin]

Nobody in their right minds believes that crap.

Jones is NOT qualified to make the statements he's making.

[dirtboy]

The design of the WTC led to the pancaking we saw.

End of story.

[dirtboy]

Congratulations, Anthem.

Howlin and I have disagreed on a lot of stuff lately.

But we both agree you're a fruitcake.

[Anthem]

--Jones is NOT qualified to make the statements he's making.

What are your qualifications to make that determination?

[Mo1]

How did we not hear of this before?

Because we haven't lost our minds and it took the loons some time to think it up???

[Anthem]

"The WTC towers were solidly constructed with 47 steel core columns and 240 perimeter steel columns. 287 steel-columns total."

It was more, not less, redundant that conventional designs. If you read his research you'll see that the building could not have fallen from the imact of the planes and resulting short lived fires which were not hot enough. Your argument has been tried.

From the presentation here. (7 MB)

[Torie]

So why did the Towers fall down, if not from the heat of the fires from the plane attack? I scaned the thread and didn't find that little "factlet" easily.

[Anthem]

Hiya Torie. Finally, someone who knows how to be civil.

--So why did the Towers fall down...?

"In this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fires, but through the use of pre-positioned cutter-charges. I consider the official FEMA, NIST, and 9-11 Commission reports that fires plus impact damage alone caused complete collapses of all three buildings. And I present evidence for the controlled-demolition hypothesis, which is suggested by the available data, testable and falsifiable, and yet has not been analyzed in any of the reports funded by the US government."

From: Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse? Scroll down the page a little to the top of the paper. Unpleasant reading for a Sunday afternoon, but necessary.

[Peach]

I'll take Popular Mechanics take on the World Trace Center over these nutjobs any day.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=4

[dirtboy]

Yeah, they act like there has been no scholarly, independent study of the "official" version of events. One that does not involve missiles, thermite, fake phone calls and other such nonsense.