Posted on 07/10/2006 8:41:39 AM PDT by girlangler
Neat looking dog. Thanks for sharing.
susie
Great-looking dog.
I like most dogs, and have found something I liked about most of the breeds I've been around. I actually have a picture of me putting a reserve on a rottie (I didn't own the dog, but the owners were too nervous to take him in the ring, so I did and they were kind enough to buy a copy of the show photo for me). He was a big goofball, very sweet. I have known (and owned) some very nice pitbulls. We had a German Shepherd when I was a kid, a GREAT dog (altho a little more protective than was probably good), but I don't like the show GSD these days, I can't figure out the usefullness of the rear end they have.
The only breed I really have to say I have a prejudice against is the chow. I just have found many to be untrustworthy, esp. around people they don't know. They are beautiful dogs, but I have known too many who would bite without provocation, and in fact would wag their tails until you got within range.
susie
Is your local agility group USDAA, AKC, or NADAC? Our group is primarily USDAA, but we run in all associations. I've never run NADAC, but Shelley is one Q short of her Excellent titles in AKC and has her Agility Dog and Advanced Jumpers titles in USDAA. If we ever start running NADAC we ought to breeze through the Novice level . . .
And she was. Maybe now that she's a steadier five-year-old instead of an absolutely loony-tune six month old, we can go back and put a CD on her, just for fun.
(Shoot, she'll go up without a leash to the line now at heel and not even break on a walkup bird. I think she can manage a CD . . . )
The one everyone I know goes to is AKC. The one I trained at in E. TX was not AKC, but I don't recall which group they were with. I never got that far.
susie
What part of Michigan is that picture from?
Oh, man, that stinks! I have hand fed puppies before, and it's alot of work. Congratulations tho, they look healthy.
susie
I thought the AKC had rigid rules on acceptance of new 'breeds', taking so many years of breeding until the 'standard' was met in all litters.
I know the Coonhound is not new.
That's a shame about the mama dog. My girl is spayed (wish I hadn't done THAT, but I didn't know what a wonderful dog she was going to turn out to be), but when my Siamese cats were queening I was a nervous wreck. I imagined every obstetrical abnormality you can think of . . . don't think I could survive a dog pregnancy.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/black_tan_coonhound/index.cfm
http://www.akc.org/breeds/redbone_coonhound/index.cfm
But it's nice to be able to put an AKC performance title on a dog if you're showing conformation too.
I think Llewellyns are gorgeous (as are English setters). My pointers are half Elhew (a particular bloodline). They are extremely birdy and tough -- as they must be in the West Texas terrain -- but they tend to be what we call "big runners," meaning they'll be in the next county pretty quickly if you're not careful. It is at such times that I wish I had setters.
I mean the GERMAN dogs are the 1s plowing the ground, especially, with their non-GS roach backs.
There's a discussion about King/Shiloh shepherds on the Euro forum today. People hate them if only because they're so big (and all kinds of claims of out-crossing to non GS breeds abound - no consistency, though, so I think they're lies). I agree that some Shilohs look better, more normal - but OTOH, they are too boxy and big-boned; no wonder people think Great Pyrs, St. Bernies or some other giant dog was added in.
Many German "working" lines are perfect in conformation. My own dog is an example (IMHO ;-)). Pity she is a submissive anxious wimp, and also allergy-ridden to boot. She is a beautiful GS, the way they should be. But her character and health is poor.
I don't mean "sharp"; I mean what most Euro's think is good temperament is over the top. GS were meant to be SHEPHERDS originally and they should not be SO prey-driven that they would KILL the sheep! My own dog is very prey-mad and I fear she will kill somebody's cat - she has killed wild animals out of sheer stupidity before. She thinks they're wonderful moving toys and shakes them to death (never mind she is obsessed when she sees a small animal and would make a bee-line to it). Then wonders why they aren't moving any more.
I can't help but fear many of the Euro dogs (esp. the "working" 1s) would rip apart a sheep just because they love to go and "catch". It's good to have drive, but I think it's way overdone with so much emphasis on the Schutzhund "sport", particularly "protection" (the other parts - obedience, tracking - never seem to matter, if you observe discussion, ads, etc). All anyone ever talks about is protection/attack training and their proclivity for it.
P.S., here's a true great from the past, before everyone on both sides ruined it...
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/2530.html
(As with everything else, pretty much the GS breed was killed in the '60s. Americans began going narrow and long-legged, Germans started going roach-back and heavy-headed.)
My Lab has a thing about furry creatures (as opposed to feathery ones.) She would never shake a bird, but she shakes anything with fur. Chipmunks, squirrels, and rabbits are dead at the first shake. The possum, on the other hand, played possum and survived (probably with a bad headache.)
As my husband says, "The real squeaky toys only squeak ONCE."
However, just as this OP article pointed out, it says "admitted to registry" - not necessarily "fully recognized". Breeds are put on the "Miscellaneous" list and get ILP numbers for registry purposes, until the BC establishes a solid stud record for some generations (and they wish to be fully recognized). So, as far as I can tell, the B&T may simply have been put on the "Misc" grouping.
My dog's breed (Irish Terrier) has only been AKC since 1968, but the breed is one of the oldest terriers around.
AKC is strange, some breed groups do not want to be AKC, like the Muensterlander.
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