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DA plans to turn over more papers in lacrosse case (DukeLax)
The Herald-Sun ^ | June 22, 2006 | John Stevenson

Posted on 06/22/2006 2:23:47 AM PDT by abb

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To: TommyDale

LOL!


1,921 posted on 07/03/2006 9:52:52 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Regardless of who the father was, if those kids were born when she was married to him, the law assumes he is the father (I know, another thread topic)

Must be it. I didn't think those were "Scuse Me's" kids. I think someone said none of the kids were his. I had thought someone said she got pregnant at least once while in the navy.

1,922 posted on 07/03/2006 10:20:40 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: TommyDale
One must wonder if the DA is applying pressure on McNeil to give testimony in support of the accuser. Another cab driver/Kim Roberts Pittman pressure play?

No, Nifong wouldn't do a thing like that. (/sarcasm)

1,923 posted on 07/03/2006 10:26:52 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pepperhead

The guy appears to be a model deadbeat dad.


1,924 posted on 07/03/2006 10:29:06 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: TommyDale

I wonder if this is another woman and kids that he in trouble with.


1,925 posted on 07/03/2006 10:36:24 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: ladyjane
It is great that expert witnesses are out there. My instincts are that it will be a turkey shoot, with Nifong and his "investigators" as the turkeys. While you are right about Levitt's probabilities being somewhat fallacious, the pattern of her responses and her certitude are definitely suspect. I can't wait until the defense attorney's get the AV to say she can't remember the number of times they showed her mug shots, but she can remember 3 weeks later 17 of 46 strangers at a party! It is a perfect heads the Defense wins, tails the DA loses. Thank god these kids have the money to afford some decent lawyers.
1,926 posted on 07/03/2006 11:02:36 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: abb
Herald-Sun editorial Jul 2, 2006 (still drinking Nifong kool-aid)

Put lacrosse case on a faster track  

1,927 posted on 07/03/2006 2:08:13 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
Herald-Sun editorial Jul 2, 2006 (still drinking Nifong kool-aid)

http://www.herald-sun.com/opinion/hsedits/56-748994.html

Nifong's critics have questioned everything from his character to his legal savvy. We think that the 25-year veteran of the prosecutor's office must have some evidence, or he would have dropped the case long ago. Since Nifong seems determined to have a trial, let's get on with it, preferably before November. It's time to lay the cards on the table.

If he has evidence, surely he must have passed it on to the defense? If Nifong has abided with the statutes, and given that the defense has shared everything with Abrams - we see another exampe of editorial writers whistling in the dark.

1,928 posted on 07/03/2006 2:18:14 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Ken H
Some BS lines from the editorial:

Intense national media scrutiny has been fed by attorneys' efforts to try the case before reporters and pundits instead of a judge and jury.

That's because the DA made a public spectacle of the case by playing the race card against the players, making deliberately misleading statements about his own evidence, and refusing to see exculpatory evidence from the defense.

Defense attorneys have released a stream of damaging evidence -- although there is much they do not divulge -- that seems to undercut the prosecution's case and leads many to question Nifong's judgment.

Most of that damaging evidence is from Nifong's own files, idiot.

Nifong, who won a convincing victory at the polls in May,

Oh really--

Mike Nifong- 11,168 45%
Freda Black- 10,269 42%
Keith Bishop-- 3,288 13%

And we hate to imagine the fallout if the lacrosse case winds up being decided by an election instead of in court.

Guess what. Your DA already set the precedent in the May 2 primary. The DA is an elective office. Apparently, one of the only checks on a rogue prosecutor in NC is the ballot box. Shame on you for your contempt for the democratic process.

Duke and Durham need to learn lessons from this incident and decide how to make positive changes.

Lessons will be learned all right-- just not the lessons you probably had in mind.

We think that the 25-year veteran of the prosecutor's office must have some evidence, or he would have dropped the case long ago.

BWAHAHAHA! Keep reciting that mantra, kool-aid boy.

1,929 posted on 07/03/2006 2:51:24 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Good Catch. All these people are going to be sitting in jail until they make statements that will benefit Nifong.

Curiously, Matt Murchison's trial, he had on the same day as the last hearing the Lacrosse's players' had, was postponed
(which is unusual in N.C.):

It's now one week later than Noel Rochelle Murchison. Matt Murchison was arrested around the time this whole thing broke - maybe Rochelle's trial is one week ahead of his, so he has a week to change his mind and cooperate and get favorable terms. Matt Murchison was supposed to go to trial before Rochelle.


District and Superior Courts of DURHAM County

District MURCHISON,MATTHEW 12/17/1967
District MURCHISON,ROCHELLE,NOEL 04/20/1978


1,930 posted on 07/03/2006 8:14:23 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: TommyDale

"Guess who is sitting in the Durham County Jail?

MCNEIL, KENNETH, NATHANIEL

One must wonder if the DA is applying pressure on McNeil to give testimony in support of the accuser. Another cab driver/Kim Roberts Pittman pressure play?
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That's exactly what's happening. Sometime in March, Matt Murchison (Boyfriend) was arrested also. Sometime in May,
another Murchison (Noel Rochelle) was arrested.

This has the trademarks of an out-of-control prosecutor. Everyone is getting prosecuted, unless they're in a position to be credible (in Nifong's mind) witness like Kim.


1,931 posted on 07/03/2006 8:19:53 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: All; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; JLS

The Ex-husband is in Jail. Her Boyfried has a trial date and with his EX-Con status, he may be sitting in jail too.

Think about it, one benefit of all these people in jail - they can't do interviews or sell their stories (stories that would hurt Crystal). And if they could, they've been effectively discredited. Selling your story from Jail- not real believable.


1,932 posted on 07/03/2006 8:25:40 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong
The Ex-husband is in Jail. Her Boyfried has a trial date and with his EX-Con status, he may be sitting in jail too.

What a nice bunch of people!

Of course they are not as bad as the "swaggering" college student on the lacrosse team!

1,933 posted on 07/03/2006 8:35:01 PM PDT by Fido969 ("being an arrogant, self-important jerk is a prerequisite for becoming a university administrator.")
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief; pepperhead; JLS; TommyDale; All

Yeah,

They are leaning on her EX-HUSBAND BIG-TIME.

Here's more charges against him:


Offense Code Description Statute
5418 Traffic DWLR 20-28(A)
4440 Infraction EXPIRED/NO INSPECTION STICKER

and I see another WORTHLESS CHECK Charge.
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Coincidentially, the Driving With License Revoked (DWLR) is the same reason Crystal's boyfriend (Murchison) was arrested. Probably after they questioned him.

AND ** They also charged (throwing the book at him) her EX with a worthless check violation too --- Sounds like Investigation Linwood Wilson?

I guarantee some of these charges are old - like the Protective order he violated. I bet they're old offenses, so one has to ask, if so, why are they enforcing them now?


1,934 posted on 07/03/2006 8:39:37 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Fido969

Fido969,

In Durham they could serve these warrants or pick up people on these old charges forever and a day. What was it 35,000 unserved warrants in Durham according to the Police Dept itself (probably more - considering the source).

So, why is everyone around the AV getting arrested now?

Did her ex-Hubbie (who doesn't get out of Durham much), call the Herald Sun and offer them a story for $$. Did they decline and did the Police find out from the reporter or source?

Of course, if Ex-hubbie and Current Boyfriend (and a relative of his) asked for a lawyer when Nifong and Investigators, in other words, they were non-cooperative - it's an easy way to discredit them by throwing them in jail.

An old trick.


1,935 posted on 07/03/2006 8:44:47 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong; abb; TommyDale; maggief; xoxoxox; JLS; Ali; All

Certainly explains why ex hasn't given any more interviews.

I would love to know what that reporter found out about av and did not print.

More importantly, I wonder if the either the local or national media (H&C, Abrams) have any idea these people have been picked up? I bet they could find the dates of some of these charges.

If someone connected the dots on this issue alone, Nifong might have lots of 'splanin to do.

Kim got her little sweetheart deal don't forget.

Mmmm...can someone be forced to testify with the threat of jail hanging over them. Maybe an alleged victim in a false rape case? Maybe AV backing out is not an option.


1,936 posted on 07/03/2006 8:52:29 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

It's worse than that. Someone is arresting everyone down the line. Someone really cares a lot about this case.

Another one bites the dust. Freep Mail me.


1,937 posted on 07/03/2006 8:59:38 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: pepperhead
That's my thought, pepperhead. IIRC Crystal's ex-husband wasn't paying her child support. I think it was in the exclusive N&O interview of our dancing young single mom where she admitted being on welfare before she was able to get child support from the navy coworker who sired her two kids.

Court records show the divorce became final after she gave birth. She continued her relationship with the sailor, and the two had a second child. Soon after, the couple parted ways. In 2003, the children's father was ordered by a Durham court to have a portion of his paycheck, about $400 a month, withheld for child support, court records show. He was also ordered to pay more than $2,700 in public assistance to the children.

The ex-husband wasn't on the hook for that. And he is 18 years older than Crystal. I don't think his current problems involve Crystal -- at least not directly. It's probably his failure to support children from another woman that have him in jail.

1,938 posted on 07/03/2006 9:35:03 PM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: All; Mad-Margaret; pepperhead

Well, one pertinent thing from her ex-hubbie McNeil - he told the News and Observer that he saw her AFTER the alleged attack/gang-rape.

He may have information that Nifong wants or Nifong wants to make sure the guy is discredited.



1,939 posted on 07/03/2006 10:19:38 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

OMG!!


1,940 posted on 07/03/2006 10:26:49 PM PDT by toldyou
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