Posted on 06/01/2006 9:07:55 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
Particularly check out the definition of "organic act"
You're still wrong, you can call me a liberal all you want, it won't make you right. Most people see the confederate flag and make an assumption about the person displaying it. There is a reason for that. It represents slavery among other things. If you don't like that perception or disagree with it, then change it in a positive way. Not by explaining away the guilt of the south in regards to slavery, not by redirecting the blame to african tribes who were involved in the slave trade and not by glossing it over by saying the north mistreated blacks and it wasn't an issue in the war.
Until you do that people's perceptions won't change.
Same thing goes for black folks today, until they stop looking for a hand out, glorifying the gangsta/pimp lifestyle and playing the eternal victim people will make assumptions when they see a guy walking down the street saggin'.
Unfortunately though, at least in my experience when I scratch the surface and poke and prod a bit I find they share many of the same views as the guys with pointy hats. Definitely not always but I've been disappointed more than I've been surprised in a good way.
Which is a political entity.
... asked permission to form a state and be admitted to the union
Which is a voluntary and legal act of a political entity representing the people who reside therein.
The people who made up that political entity have inherent rights. Among these rights are the right of association and the right to form a government. Those people chose, voluntarily, to join the union, forming a state. The people of that state have not surrendered their rights thereby. Therefore secession, being a legal action of a legal government formed by consent of the governed, is an inherent right. To trample those rights and require their return to a union against their will by force is a conquest. A nation built by involuntary conquest is no longer a nation - it is an empire.
Only that which Congress allowed them.
If their actions had been legal then that would have been true. Since they were not then their actions constitute a rebellion.
Anyone who hasn't swallowed the southron kool-aid is a liberal. Get used to it, it's their favorite insult.
By the way, welcome to The Cause.
Thanks!
The South seceded for states rights. Period. You don't get it now and you never will. You're blinded by emotion and your own self-righteous indignation.
Same thing goes for black folks today, until they stop looking for a hand out, glorifying the gangsta/pimp lifestyle and playing the eternal victim people will make assumptions when they see a guy walking down the street saggin'.
Just as I thought. You're a stereotyping, racist bastard.
Check him out, watie. His true 'colors' are shining through.
So when did that political entity come into being? Was it there a million years ago, just waiting for people to come? Was it when the first Indians arrived? The French? Lewis and Clark? The US purchased the territory in 1803. The territory was organized in 1812. What was it during those nine years?
The people who made up that political entity have inherent rights. Among these rights are the right of association and the right to form a government.
Why stop there? What about the people of a county? Or a township? Does every level of political organization have an inherent right of association and right to form a government or declare its independence of a larger entity? Or does this right only exist at the state level?
The South seceded for states rights. Period. One of those rights being the ability to own other human beings and treat them like cattle because thier skin is dark.
in point of fact (as you KNOW) the 10th Amendment says that all RIGHTS not SPECIFICALLY ceded to the federal government remain with the STATES & the PEOPLE. secession is NOT one of those RIGHTS, which were ceded!
free dixie,sw
PITY that you've "lost your memory".
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
But, as the Supreme Court ruled, no allowance for unilateral secession either.
in point of fact (as you KNOW) the 10th Amendment says that all RIGHTS not SPECIFICALLY ceded to the federal government remain with the STATES & the PEOPLE. secession is NOT one of those RIGHTS, which were ceded!
The 10th Commandment states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." No where does the words "SPECIFICALLY" or "explicitly" appear.
PITY!
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
So are you now saying that the reason for the southern rebellion was "to preserve the Union"?
The reason why the North fought was to preserve the Union. The reason why the south launched their rebellion was the protection of slavery. I've never said any different.
Oops. Make that 10th Amendment.
And what state's right did they feel needed protection?
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