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Harvey (The Kitten) Haddix and a Masterpiece (Baseball)
Free Republic ^ | 5/24/06 | self

Posted on 05/24/2006 12:20:38 PM PDT by beyond the sea

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To: steelyourfaith; Ditto; rwa265; So Cal Rocket; Charles Henrickson; MinuteGal; Michael Goldsberry; ...
That was one of the greatest nights of my life. It was sad that Harvey lost............ but my, my!

Here's betting that NO ONE ties or betters that 12 Perfect Innings record in the next decade or so. What do you think?

21 posted on 05/24/2006 3:39:26 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: beyond the sea
Here's betting that NO ONE ties or betters that 12 Perfect Innings record in the next decade or so. What do you think?

In one game? That record will NEVER be broken. However, there could be some fireballing relief pitcher that comes in in the next decade and pitches 12 perfect innings in a row... over 12 games.

22 posted on 05/24/2006 3:41:39 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: MizSterious
My grandparents would have the family over for dinner, and three or four radios would be going at once.

ROFL.................. so very familiar!!!

LOL

23 posted on 05/24/2006 3:41:49 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: So Cal Rocket
"there could be some fireballing relief pitcher that comes in in the next decade and pitches 12 perfect innings in a row... over 12 games" ----

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LOL ....... that is hilarious!!!

24 posted on 05/24/2006 3:43:20 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: beyond the sea
Oh, I remember it well. Listening under my covers on a poretable radio with a battery 1/2 the size of a car battery today. The nuns at St Xavier Academy, in Latrobe, were all asleep. I was a rare sports wacko.

Later in my life I got to meet Haddix several times. He had the biggest ears I have ever seen on a person.

Just wondering what ever happend to Harvey Haddix. Great guy, Great fielder, Great Person. ????

25 posted on 05/24/2006 4:12:01 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Better Living Through Government Interference - Democrats Platform)
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To: beyond the sea
Amazing game I've only read about. Gotta be the best start in history.

Somebody pitched 9 no-hit innings a few years back and had the game go into extra innings.

26 posted on 05/24/2006 4:41:37 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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To: beyond the sea

St. Louis, MO


27 posted on 05/24/2006 4:42:37 PM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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To: Ditto
My mother made me go to bed, but I had my trusty transistor radio with the ear phone and I hid under the blanket and listened to the very end.

Wasn't that the best!?

I used to love when the Orioles would go on a west coast swing so I could fall asleep to the game.

28 posted on 05/24/2006 4:45:57 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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To: rwa265
Stan Musial (a Cardinal).............. was from around here (Pittsburgh) ........ Donora. PA.

He was solid man and a class act! I loved the guy..... met him a few times back in the 50's. He was a gentleman!

29 posted on 05/24/2006 4:55:14 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: beyond the sea

What makes this such a great story is the tragedy of it all. Haddix lost the game and is not credited for a perfect game, officially.

In 1995, Pedro Martinez threw 9 perfect innings only to give up a hit in the 10th. He won the game.

Ernie Shore got out 27 players in a row and is not credited with a perfect game. He came in relieving the starting pitcher who was thrown out of the game after arguing balls and strikes with the umpire, having given up a leadoff walk.

The runner was picked off at second by the catcher once Shore hit the mound and the next 26 players were retired in a row.

And the pitcher Shore relieved? Babe Ruth.

But I think the most impressive pitching performance was Rick Wise: He threw a no-hitter (giving up only 1 walk) but he also hit 2 home runs in that same game.


30 posted on 05/24/2006 5:09:39 PM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: beyond the sea
These kinds of games make baseball great.
They wouldn't, though, if there were not so many other games which go so very much differently! This way we can appreciate them!

I remember hearing about and reading about the Haddix non-nohitter; how can you pitch that well and lose! But being a Phillies fan living near Philadelphia at the time, I didn't hear the play-by-play. My real introduction to MLB fandom was in 1950 when I was 11 and the Phillies won the pennant.

Dad loved to pitch softball and he taught me windmill pitching; at a time when I was pitching in a league my former schoolmates got a pickup game with other college-age guys from nearby, and they recruited me. My big chance for a no-hitter; nobody got a ball out of the infield all game.

Dad caught the game for several innings, and had to leave; when he left they replaced him with someone who couldn't handle it and he allowed a base runner on a third strike. Who advanced to third on passed balls, and kept me from throwing out the next batter when I fielded his grounder.

There's just so much difference between the various levels of play; I never came particularly close to a no-hitter against an organized team. To think of pitching a perfect game into extra innings against the Braves and Henry Aaron!!


31 posted on 05/24/2006 6:08:30 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: So Cal Rocket
Exactly. I never even heard the term 'pitch count' until the 80's! And on top of that--pitchers back then pitched every fourth day--instead of every fifth, like most do now.

I have to wonder what Haddix's pitch count was that day. I'd love to know the answer to that one.

32 posted on 05/24/2006 6:10:56 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

It was a beautiful night of excellent pitching ......... but may I say, a very SAD night for a young Pirate fan!


33 posted on 05/24/2006 6:13:23 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: AmishDude

The most dominating pitching performance I ever saw was Nolan Ryan back in 1974 or so... against Boston

He strikes out the first two batters, then Carl Yaztremski pops a pitch into short right field that just eludes the second baseman's glove...

Ryan then proceeds to strike out the next 8 batters in a row, including striking out the side in the second inning on 9 pitches.

Ryan had incredible control that day, the only time he ever pitched a 9 inning game without walking a batter... he ended the game with 17 strikeouts... and the pop single was the only baserunner for the BoSox.


34 posted on 05/24/2006 6:15:59 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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"There's just so much difference between the various levels of play; I never came particularly close to a no-hitter against an organized team. To think of pitching a perfect game into extra innings against the Braves and Henry Aaron!!"

Never mind that, to think of getting Henry Aaron out once in three tries would be amazing. I remember pitching against one particular batter who had a quick bat; there wasn't a thing you could do about him. You'd think you had a fastball past him, practically in the catcher's mitt, and the next thing you knew it was a line drive going the other way. And he wasn't a professional ballplayer.

People wonder why pitchers can't hit; it's no mystery at all. Most people can't hit, but pitchers can get to the big leagues without hitting, and the rest of the positions on the team generally cannot get on the field if they can't hit.

35 posted on 05/24/2006 6:24:06 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: beyond the sea

The Man's one of the best. We got another good one in Pujols. Some locals are calling him El Hombre. Thought I remembered another good player or two from Donora so I did a search. I found Ken Griffey and Junior, but realized I was thinking of Jack Clark. Not Donora, but New Brighton. He was on the local news tonight in the sports segment, manager of the River City Otters, a minor league team in St. Charles, MO. Said he wouldn't mind getting a coaching job in the majors. I hope he gets an offer. He's another class act.

Here's a list of players from PA you might enjoy.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bio/PA_born.shtml


36 posted on 05/24/2006 6:42:54 PM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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To think of pitching a perfect game into extra innings against the Braves and Henry Aaron!!"

And it wasn't just Arron on that team. They had guys like Joe Adcock and Eddie Matthews too and their pitching with Spaun and Burdett was great. IIRC, the Braves were the reigning NL champs. They were not some rinky-dink team which made Haddox's perfect game even more impressive.

37 posted on 05/25/2006 6:28:27 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Mr. Buzzcut; rwa265
I used to love when the Orioles would go on a west coast swing so I could fall asleep to the game.

And late at night if you had a decent radio, you could pick up a lot of other teams broadcast. In Pittsburgh, I could usually pick up KMOX(?) in St. Louis for the Cardinals games and lots of times I could get Chicago or New York stations.

Those were the days.

38 posted on 05/25/2006 6:37:07 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

I still love baseball on the radio ... It's perfect "background music" ... It has a rythmn and cadence that's perfect when you're just knocking around the house.


39 posted on 05/25/2006 4:11:21 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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