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Da Vinci Code Actor McKellan: Bible as Much "Fiction" as Movie
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Posted on 05/18/2006 3:45:21 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

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To: FJ290
Besides, this sin was mentioned several times in the New Testament.

Old Testament sins that are repeated in the New Testament are still applicable.

41 posted on 05/18/2006 6:46:24 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: sasportas

Jefferson actually edited the bible to his liking, taking out all of the miracles, etc.


42 posted on 05/18/2006 7:02:21 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: sasportas

Here's a copy of it. Kind of a weird historical oddity, but still fascinating...

http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/


43 posted on 05/18/2006 7:06:19 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: jla
The sodomites generally have a problem with the Holy Bible. Must be those pesky passages about a man lying with another man being an abomination.

I recall seeing a bumper sticked that read "Attn: Gays...sin on brothers, Hell aint half-full yet".

Anyway, Hanks has always been militantly pro-gay ever since "Philadelphia".

44 posted on 05/18/2006 7:09:27 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

The Bible gets much better reviews than this turkey of a film!


45 posted on 05/18/2006 7:09:58 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: Windsong

sticked=sticker


46 posted on 05/18/2006 7:17:43 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Doe Eyes
those old Testament sins are no longer applicable.

Like the old Testament sins forbidding incest? Murder? Theft? Adultery? Child sacrifice? Sex with animals? Those old Testament sins were abolished by Jesus? By Mohammed maybe.

47 posted on 05/18/2006 7:22:45 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 97-103)
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To: sasportas
No big deal, all this movie means is that with no validation of Christ's resurrection, there is no possibility of us any of us being redeemed from sin. No big deal...only to an unbeliever and to an atheist.

..or to those of us who are intelligent enough to comprehend that +A Novel+ on the cover of a book means that it is fiction.

Honestly, I remember learning that back in elementary school, when the teacher rounded us all up and took us to the school library to learn about the Dewey Decimal system. We also learned what fiction and nonfiction meant.

48 posted on 05/18/2006 7:26:08 PM PDT by Deadshot Drifter
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To: Alouette

9 " 'Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales. 10 But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to detest. 11 And since you are to detest them, you must not eat their meat and you must detest their carcasses. 12 Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be detestable to you


No lobster for you!


49 posted on 05/18/2006 7:27:20 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
It's a case of Opus Dei vs. Opie Deus :=_
50 posted on 05/18/2006 7:28:06 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: durasell
No lobster for you!

Ain't that a bummer!

51 posted on 05/18/2006 7:31:32 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 97-103)
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To: durasell
At least McKellan had the stones to come right out and say what he thinks, rather than 'cafeteria Christians' or those who, to paraphrase C.S.Lewis, want a warm fuzzy deity to be thankful towards when the sun is shining and everything is beautiful but don;t really want to worry about any type of deity when they want to do something they'd rather no one knew about.....
52 posted on 05/18/2006 7:32:08 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: Alouette

Nobody is born with a taste for lobster (or shrimp cocktail) it's a choice. A lifestyle. Lobster eaters choose the lobster eating lifestyle of silly bibs and melted butter.


53 posted on 05/18/2006 7:33:22 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: RedStateRocker

The guy is 9,000 years old. He's made a ton of money in popular movies, established his reputation in serious theater and was Knighted. He's pretty much free to say whatever he wants without too many worries.


54 posted on 05/18/2006 7:38:21 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Deadshot Drifter

I understand your point, but apparently you don't understand mine.

This Da Vinci business is a full broadside against the very foundation of Christian salvation. By (from what I see on this thread about Hanks and the producer of the film) homosexuals and pro-homos who hate the Bible because it condemns their sin.

Is there ANYTHING sacred anymore? Apparently you are one of those who thinks there isn't.

As to it being fiction. Whether its producers and Hanks actually believe the tall tale, who knows. The point is, they are using it, fiction or no, to attack the validity of the Bible.


55 posted on 05/18/2006 7:46:32 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Deadshot Drifter
..or to those of us who are intelligent enough to comprehend that +A Novel+ on the cover of a book means that it is fiction. Honestly, I remember learning that back in elementary school, when the teacher rounded us all up and took us to the school library to learn about the Dewey Decimal system. We also learned what fiction and nonfiction meant.

Look, I'm sure you've read threads about this book before... Maybe you've even read it. If so, you know that it claims that all the historical facts about Christ, all the historical facts about Da Vinci, all the historical facts put forth in the novel are TRUE, period, no equivocation on Mr. Brown's part.

I'm sure your teachers taught you the difference between science fiction, historical fiction and so on. The belief that a book cannot serve or be intended to serve as an argument for a certain position simply because it is a work of fiction is completely unwarranted on at least two grounds.

First, the idea that a work of fiction cannot be intended to move people into holding a certain position makes no sense. there is nothing about the definition of the term "fiction" that would suggest that it is incapable of doing so.

Second, throughout history, works of fiction have purposefully and successfully been used to do exactly that. The dialogues of Plato, Galileo and Hume are fiction. Each contributed to creating the intellectual atmosphere in which we breath today. Ayn Rand's novels are fictional... But I'm sure you've noticed that, like Dan Brown's novels, they are also polemical. So is Michael Crichton's novel on environmentalist fanaticism, "The State of Fear". So was Harriett Beecher Stowe's Uncle Tom's cabin, which Abraham Lincoln with just a bit of exaggeration with starting the Civil War.

Fiction can be as powerful, if not more so, than any other medium. This has been recognized since virtually the beginning of written history-- Plato advocated censorship of poets in the Republic for exactly this reason.

I understand you may believe some are making too big a deal about this movie. Maybe they are, maybe not; it'll be blown away when it has to compete with X-Men 3 in any case. But it seems like this "it's just fiction" fallacy keeps popping up, and it really IS fallacious.

56 posted on 05/18/2006 7:50:25 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: frogjerk
Question: Are there any other theories/research in "The Da Vinci Code" that are not already in "Holy Blood, Holy Grail"?

Dan Brown pretty much openly admits that there were not. That's what was funny about the lawsuit of the guys who wrote it--- Dan Brown has been totally upfront in giving them credit and listing them as a source.

57 posted on 05/18/2006 8:10:19 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Frank Sheed

Now at 15%.


58 posted on 05/18/2006 10:36:46 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (As the Democrat Party becomes more evil, the GOP becomes more stupid. What's a voter to do?)
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To: RedStateRocker

LOL. Good one.


59 posted on 05/18/2006 10:37:12 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (As the Democrat Party becomes more evil, the GOP becomes more stupid. What's a voter to do?)
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To: sasportas
This Da Vinci business is a full broadside against the very foundation of Christian salvation.

As I said to a friend today, the appeal of the book is to the rebellious/God-denying streak in every man. Take Jesus down a few pegs, and it makes humanity feel pretty good about itself.

60 posted on 05/18/2006 10:41:46 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (As the Democrat Party becomes more evil, the GOP becomes more stupid. What's a voter to do?)
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