Posted on 05/17/2006 7:09:30 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
Excellent, TexKat, Thanks for posting that. I hope the boys and their families embrace that wisdom.
She can sue anybody she wants to, but whether she wins is another question. In the possible case of suing Duke because they owned the house, she would have to prove that the rape occurred and that such an act committed by the specific boys was forseeable.
This would be one of the main reasons she picked Dave Evans - he lives there, he has a previous offense for drinking or peeing or something rowdy like that (I forget at the moment what it was), and he's a team captain. These facts will be used to put Duke on the hook, but, again, she would have to prove she was raped, and I don't think she can do that.
Early last month it was reported that the mother had sought Gary Willie out through Jesse jackson.
She can file it any time. But the defendants have a Fifth Amendment right to not incriminate themselves, so they could not be forced to testify in the civil case proceedings.
I think Reade Seligmann should sue her, and do it in his home state, if possible. My post at #113 explains why.
I think somebody at FNC told her she was on the wrong side of this and get with it or think about getting out.
I think the boyfriend's semen that they found in her proves her to be a liar to the SANE nurse in relation to the question they ask as to when was the last time she had consensual sex, and that's what Nifong is hiding and doesn't want to release.
Yep, and Dave came off exactly the way he should have - not too polished, guileless, vulnerable, honest and resolute.
My guess is that Nifong was in the men's loo changing his shorts after Dave spoke.
I think I must have missed that reporting. Thanks for the update and correction.
This is a great idea. This may be a blessing in disguise for Crystal.
She needs a way to get out of this without being criminally prosecuted herself for making a false report of rape. Being sued civilly and losing wouldn't hurt her much financially, altho it would hurt her reputation (which doesn't matter because it's not good to start with).
OTOH, Jesse Jackson hooked her up with a civil lawyer who may be encouraging her to civilly sue the players. We know JJ and the people he consorts with are only concerned with racially pimping Crystal to extort money from the families and/or Duke University. Altho, they'd settle for a criminal trial. Even if the players are found not guilty, that's no proof she didn't make the story up. So they end up with another "poor black woman victimized by white men and got no justice" poster child.
Escorts are prostitutes - call girls. I doubt that her reported income is her true income.
That's why I think Reade should sue her, and do it NOW.
She probably doesn't have insurance, and her car is probably registered to someone else - a relative or her boyfriend, and they probably carry the minimum the state requires in order to be able to register it and keep the tags current.
They will have to seek a factual finding of innocence, if NV law provides for such a procedure.
The point of suing her would be to get the goods on Nifong and subject Mangum to criminal prosecution for filing a false report.
A suit against Mangum now could conceivably burn both their houses to the ground and bring about a rapid dismissal of charges.
I think Simeon would have a conflict of interest problem in representing both Roberts and Mangum.
In understand the point. But i doubt the prosecutors office under Nifong would be eager to criminally prosecute her for filing a false report if it were brought out in the civil trial that he, himself, had something to do with propogating the false case.
Mangum should be praying for this. She get's outta this mess and with only a worsened reputation. And she doesn't have to worry about being criminally prosecuted by Nifong because she's got the goods on him and even if she doesn't somebody does. He can't/won't go thru with it.
This is based on my personal belief of prosecutorial misconduct on Nifong which can get him removed from office if the facts are shown.
I'm not advocating for Crystal at all. I just want this nightmare to be over for the players. And i want their reputations to be restored and their futures to be bright again.
I think your suggestion of the players filing a civil suit against Crystal is a better option than their going to criminal court and as you say it would certainly cut that off at the pass.
The false accuser's family says Nifong is keeping their daughter in a "safe location":
http://www.nbc17.com/news/9235603/detail.html
I agree! Well said.
This could not work for the defendants. Their suit would be dismissed when they refused to appear for depositions. However, the other members of the duke team could bring a suit, but the downside is that their stories would be known and the perjury on the other side would start. right now, as nifung did not want to see anything, he will not go the full story in advance and once he commits himself he will be shredded.
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