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Opus Dei Response to Director Ron Howard re 'The DaVinci Code'
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| May 15, 2006
Posted on 05/15/2006 4:08:09 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Accygirl
Right on! Liberals found the Passion of the Christ offensive and Catholics find the Da Vinci Code offensive. See you later on DU.
To: NYer
Didn't get too far into this article...seems to me both parties are being ridiculous. Go read the book or see the movie if you want. If you don't want to, don't. What's the frikkin' problem here?........oh yeah....I know...most pipples need to be told what to read and watch because their minds are mush.
Sheesh.
FMCDH(BITS)
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:40:48 PM PDT
by
nothingnew
(I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
To: Bob Eimiller
With respect the the activities of the Catholic Church you should read the "Catholic Encyclopedia" which clearly states that the Inquisition used torture on heretics as authorized by Pope Clement V and other popes and bishops. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08026a.htm
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:42:48 PM PDT
by
RKV
( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
To: Accygirl
Pinging you to #22...
FMCDH(BITS)
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:43:56 PM PDT
by
nothingnew
(I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
To: Accygirl
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:44:04 PM PDT
by
RKV
( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
To: Accygirl
How is Opus Dei whining about the Da Vinci Code any different from liberals whining about the Passion of the Christ? IMO, both groups look pretty silly... Let's just postulate that I'm planning on making a movie about you - in it you will be portrayed as a self destructive lesbian, and your mother will be shown as a crack whore. I will introduce the film my stating that everything that is about to be shown is true...
...but claim it's just fiction when challenged.
Based on your above comment I have no doubt that you would protest not at all - it would just look silly...
By the way, I would do no such thing, of course; you are probably a fine upstanding person (the fact that you are at FreeRepublic indicates above average intelligence) and it would be wrong to slander someone for money.
As long as you are asking for differences, those that protested the Passion stated that the film was a slander against Jews (it wasn't) and that it would lead to pograms (it didn't) and that the film indicated the need for Christians to rewrite the New Testaments and abandon their false anti-semetic faith (it isn't and we didn't).
Critics of the Code note that the film is a slander against the Catholic Church in particular and Christianity in general - which it is - that is based on a combination of old Gnostic B.S., new feminist B.S. and as many hoary old anti Catholic myths that can be packed into a book/film at one time without making it look like Jack Chick was the head writer (true), and that argues that Christians abandon their false anti-feminist faith (it isn't and we won't)
I think that sums up both differences and similarities in the criticism
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:47:09 PM PDT
by
jscd3
To: NYer
Howard said that "to deny the right to see the film is a fascist act," and also "to tell someone not to go see the film is an act of militancy and militancy generates hatred and violence.I guess Ron would have a problem with parents telling their children what they can't do. He also may have a serious problem with authority in general. Sure sounds like it.
To: NYer
Opie:
You would have half empty theaters if this picture came out when the Church had us take oaths in not viewing C for condemned movies.
Another discipline the liberals did away with.
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:48:01 PM PDT
by
franky
(Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
To: NYer
Cool!
It is Opie vs Opus Dei.
Opus Day will long outlive Opie.
To: Bob Eimiller
The names of the Catholic atrocities are listed in your tag line.
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:53:12 PM PDT
by
SHOOT THE MOON bat
(Disclaimer: No live moonbats were harmed during the making of this screen name.)
To: RKV
While you are at it, your research would also show that the various Inquisitions were the fairest courts in the world at the time, far less likely to use torture or administer the death penalty than civil courts in Europe or any court in Asia.
You would also find that when the witch craze swept Europe in the 17th century, civil authorities were more likely to condemn people as witches then ecclesiastical authorites (Protestant or Catholic) and that those parts of Europe that were by far the least touched my the mania were those with an active Catholic Ecclestiastical court - Inquisition - because those courts required a far higher degree of evidence of guilt than other courts in Europe and were far less swayed by Emotion.
Obviously I'm not suggesting that the Church was perfect - it's made up of people, after all. However, it's judicial system was a lot fairer and more humane than the actual alternatives at the time.
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:59:14 PM PDT
by
jscd3
To: billbears
I'm not offended by the movie as I know it is a F..I..C..T..I..O..N..A..L piece of work.Reminds me of "The Name of the Rose" with Sean Connery. Excellent mystery movie involving Monks and the Inquistion.
If people think they'll be insulted or be the subject of ridicule or worse...don't read/listen/view these things.....or has personal "choice" been removed from the populace?
Put on the full armor and buck up folks. Don't be whiny little crybabies.
He gave us free will for a purpose...use it for His and your own sake.
FMCDH(BITS)
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posted on
05/15/2006 4:59:23 PM PDT
by
nothingnew
(I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
To: NYer
My wife brings me the latest action/adventure/slasher books from the library when they first come out. I read DaVinci Code the day it came out. I thought it was a ho-hum book with a religious chip on the shoulder. I saw the ending coming.
Then a few months later, I see this thing has shot to the top of the lists. I was amazed. I have read many books better than it. The only thing that keeps it going is the Magdalene angle. And that is nothing new, either.
My guess is that it has been pushed pretty hard to get where it is. It will be interesting to see how the movie plays out.
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posted on
05/15/2006 5:01:43 PM PDT
by
Right Wing Assault
("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
To: NYer
I have read so many forams on this stupid movie, but it is especially disheartening to read people defend this piece of trash.
If people are really interested in knowing Our Blessed Lord, then sacred scripture is all you need to read. In the sacred writings of the Bible we become acquainted with Our Lord. We hear His words. We see His sanctity. His love and compassion shine forth from the inspired pages. I wish people would look for books and films of inspiration, tranquility and a deepening of the love of God and neighbor. Yes, this film may be so-called "fiction," but it is not inspirational and will only accomplish confusion and untruth. Please people, don't waste your money on such garbage. Hollywood as well as Ron Howard are only interested in your money, not your soul.
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posted on
05/15/2006 5:14:53 PM PDT
by
Gerish
(Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
To: nothingnew
The book was boring tripe, IMHO.
I tried to like it, but puleeze.
Then again, the Catholic church can be a little "over the top" as well, now and a again.
A pox on all there houses.
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posted on
05/15/2006 5:20:22 PM PDT
by
billorites
(freepo ergo sum)
To: NYer
The film sounds like an offense to anyone who values the Bible as spiritual truth, no matter what they call themselves.
To: RKV
The Inquisition is a "blip" in time. Sure it happened but it's insignificant in the totality of Catholic History... A history full of human frailty.
So I have to say in response to your comment....."Big Deal"
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posted on
05/15/2006 5:46:53 PM PDT
by
Bob Eimiller
(Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
To: SHOOT THE MOON bat
You are absolutely correct... but what you miss in your comment is the obvious fact that these people are not leaders of the Catholic church.. they are Catholic in name only and... as I suggest in my tag line... they... every one of them should be excommunicated...
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posted on
05/15/2006 5:52:06 PM PDT
by
Bob Eimiller
(Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
To: Accygirl; NYer
"look pretty silly..."
It's not funny when someone is beaten and/or murdered because of such influence. Recall that the cartoons that upset so many Muslims did in fact influence violence in Nigeria against Christians who had nothing to do with the cartoons printed by non-Christians in Europe.
"Satan" means "accuser". Whether it's a thoroughly conceived lie or a slip of gossip, it produces ill.
When you become a victim of gossip you won't have the same opinion about lies. Being the victim of constant accusations (that aren't true) results in a wildly chaotic environment.
This is an example of how people violently react to lies and gossip in another African country.

Sierra Leone
Why is this little girl the victim of violence? Because someone got angry over a diabolically inspired lie. Maybe in this particular case it was over a girl's best friend (diamonds), but the lies of what defines happiness don't really matter to the little girl, or us, or Happiness.
Why hands and feet? Because we become the Hands and Feet of Jesus Christ to do The Father's Divine Will.
Promoting such "fiction" as this present Dan Brown work as entertainment in our part of the world will have tremendously disastrous real world consequences elsewhere.
People walk pass burnt dead bodies on the ground in a street in Onitsha, Nigeria, Thursday, Feb. 23, 2006. Gangs of rioters armed with machetes and shotguns poured through the streets of the mainly Christian southern city of Onitsha on Wednesday as the death toll from days of Christian-Muslim violence across Nigeria rose to at least 76. (Photo: AP / George Osodi)
The lies are "silly", but it's not really funny. I wish people would change their opinion on what they consider entertainment because this is murder. All participating and/or defending such work are playing a diabolic roll. Victims of the ensuing violence...and yes, there WILL BE VIOLENCE because of this movie...should considering wrongful death law suits against this satanic "entertainment" industry. We now have plenty of evidence of what lies bring to the world. Denying complicity and lack of apology for reconciliation most likely denies personal Salvation. Sony has a lot of money to lose and there ought to be plenty of lawyers representing the victims' survivors if even if just one innocent person is murdered over this publicized and popularized heresy.
The mastermind of murder carries the heavier burden of guilt for causing others to sin.
John 9: 11
Mark 9: 42
Revelations 18: 21-24
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posted on
05/15/2006 5:52:17 PM PDT
by
SaltyJoe
(A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
To: Bob Eimiller
I have to say in response to your comment - "you don't know your Catholic history." The Catholic Church got political power and started killing and torturing people who disagreed with it's theology early on. Stop treating the murder of hundreds of thousands of people as a blip.
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posted on
05/15/2006 5:58:44 PM PDT
by
RKV
( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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