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Fuel for thought: NASCAR might be wise to switch to ethanol
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/15/06

Posted on 05/15/2006 1:12:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 05/15/2006 1:12:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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I got a better idea: Why don't all NASCAR drivers just do what the Flintstones did?

AP is full of feces as usual.

2 posted on 05/15/2006 1:14:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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Race fans watch the sunset during the NASCAR Dodge Charger 500 auto race Saturday, May 13, 2006, at Darlington Raceway in Darlington, S.C. (AP Photo/Gene Blythe)


3 posted on 05/15/2006 1:18:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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How about all of the Limousine Liberals using it in their cars, boats, jets, and all of their assorted toys?


4 posted on 05/15/2006 1:24:02 PM PDT by digger48
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The Indy Racing League is leading the way on alternative fuels, beginning a two-year transition to ethanol.

With the war between IRL & CART, these guys aren't leading the way to anything but failure.

I bet freeper racing fans like me couldn't name 2 drivers from either open-wheel league, most their drivers are from Europe and elsewhere?

5 posted on 05/15/2006 1:24:21 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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I'm not sure what the exact losses in performance and speed would be,,

side note, I had a cousin that built a huge ethanol still and used their locally grown corn, they went bust, this was in the late 70s , The Carter Age.. never tried any of their product. They went into fish fertilizer after that and did OK, fish emulsions,, ulp,, glleeyyaa.. should have stuck to moonshine. ;-)


Just remember, Change IS Good! lol


6 posted on 05/15/2006 1:26:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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So then what about the NHRA? They've been burning nitromethane for eons.


7 posted on 05/15/2006 1:27:15 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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I was kind of bummed that Indy got rained out this weekend..

I agree, I know few names as well..


8 posted on 05/15/2006 1:28:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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That's true.. I guess performance wise, it's plenty potent ,, sounds like mileage would be the trade-off.. it may not be a trade-off worth taking.. maybe they could have the 10 worst teams try it at a few races, see how it works out... if they take off like banshees for a few laps and then belly up, :)


9 posted on 05/15/2006 1:31:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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I agree, I know few names as well..

It used not be that way.

Nascar has really done a great job promoting it's racing leagues.

Doesn't the split into IRL & CART go all the way back to a fued between A.J.Foyt and Al Unser?

10 posted on 05/15/2006 1:35:22 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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Not to mention the cost. Pure nitromethane costs around $40 a gallon. Drag racers usually run about 80% nitro and 20% methane, and a racing fuel blend with other additives costs around $50 a gallon. They only use about a gallon a run, though.


11 posted on 05/15/2006 1:39:35 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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re: the split, It goes back a ways,,

I still know a few names today, I just don't follow it like I used to tho.

and Yes, Nascar has been very successful leagues wise.


12 posted on 05/15/2006 1:49:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Indy has some old timers coming back....Al Unser Jr and Michael Andretti. John Andretti has also stated that he hasn't ruled out a run at Indy. [getting a little late for him if he hasn't made up his mind by now]


13 posted on 05/15/2006 1:58:58 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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The big difference between Indy and Nascar engines is.....

Indy = Whiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnne

Nascar = Roaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrr


14 posted on 05/15/2006 2:01:07 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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Al Jr. is running a lot slower than the leaders, Michael has a shot at it,, John? save the gas. ;-)


15 posted on 05/15/2006 2:04:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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I'd like to see an all-diesel (maybe biodiesel?) class/series. Wouldn't be as popular, obviously, but could be interesting from a technology perspective, and could open some eyes to what has happened with diesel tech in the past 10 years.

The driver/crew competition is great, but sometimes I'd like to see some new tech.


16 posted on 05/15/2006 2:05:45 PM PDT by B Knotts
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Seems to me that you could dissolve finely powdered agar-agar in gasoline or alcohol and give yourself a boost a bit more robust than the nitro-ethanol concoction.


17 posted on 05/15/2006 2:14:38 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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There would be a loss of fuel economy, but a gain in performance.

Nextel Cup engines presently run a 12:1 compression ratio; ethanol would allow that to increase to 15:1.

18 posted on 05/15/2006 2:35:20 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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I'd like to see an all-diesel (maybe biodiesel?) class/series. Wouldn't be as popular, obviously, but could be interesting from a technology perspective, and could open some eyes to what has happened with diesel tech in the past 10 years.
A biodiesel class could be sponsored by McDonalds' . . . the french fry smell would be overwhelming. It would really be interesting to have a diesel-electric hybrid division. You could do a dual-fuel diesel running lean ethanol ignited by a diesel charge of soy oil, with the electric batteries providing the load control. Awesome! Just think of the sprint to the finish!

19 posted on 05/15/2006 3:16:57 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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You all are forgetting SCCA World Challenge. You get the roar with the squealing tires from all the turns. Not just turning left there all the time. They actually use the steering wheel haha.


20 posted on 05/15/2006 3:18:15 PM PDT by CherylBower
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