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The CFR and the Trilateral Commission - The two organizations that run the United States
unknown | Melvin Sickler

Posted on 05/02/2006 11:55:13 AM PDT by Marxbites

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To: gondramB
The CFR mandate is to be a think tank making foreign policy suggestions that will discourage isolationism.

ARe you serious? You have just described an organization that is truely seeking a one-world government.

61 posted on 05/02/2006 1:09:01 PM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: subterfuge

Thank you!

AFAIC it's no conspiracy but actual history that educrats did their all to keep us from learning just as they fawned over FDR. The abject ignorance here is sadly pathetic.

See this please:
http://mises.org:88/Rothbard-Fed

And for the bigger progressive pictures:

http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm

Size Matters: How Big Government Puts the Squeeze on America's Families, Finances, and Freedom (And Limits the Pursuit of Happiness)

http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-02-06.ram

How Progressives Rewrote the Constitution

http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-15-06.ram


62 posted on 05/02/2006 1:09:14 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: SampleMan

That's redundant.

Freemasons=Jews=bankers

S&B are freemason offshoots.

And members of the British Royal Family/ArchBishop of Canterbury are traditionally FM, as well. (Although the current ABoC is not, presumably because he's a fop.)


63 posted on 05/02/2006 1:09:32 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: inquest

>>So the CFR is basically a political lobbying organization?<<

The predate modern lobbying. Their position paper and most meeting minutes are open to the public they hope to influence public opinion. If you think about the period after WW1 there was tremendous desire for us to "stay out of foreign entanglements" the CFR thought that was short sighted and would lead to trouble both poltically and economically.


64 posted on 05/02/2006 1:12:22 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: subterfuge

Me: The CFR mandate is to be a think tank making foreign policy suggestions that will discourage isolationism.

subterfuge: ARe you serious? You have just described an organization that is truely seeking a one-world government.

Only if define one world government as anything except being isolationist.


65 posted on 05/02/2006 1:13:35 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Well listen to the video and see why the Fed was pushed for for so long by NE banking elites in efforts to kill off their midwest smaller competitors, in like process of Govt intervention/regulation sought by industrialists as they did in every major industry during the progressive takeover of America from 1890 thru the 30's.

Or didn't you know?

If not, this can explain it to you as well as anything I've ever read yet:

http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm


66 posted on 05/02/2006 1:16:37 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: gondramB

"Only if define one world government as anything except being isolationist."

Bingo.

This is why neo-Nazis and these guys run hand-in-hand. They're upset we entered WWII and defeated Germany, in short.


67 posted on 05/02/2006 1:18:32 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Marxbites
AFAIC it's no conspiracy but actual history that educrats did their all to keep us from learning just as they fawned over FDR. The abject ignorance here is sadly pathetic

For starters, why isn't anyone questioning or looking into the first statements in this artcle? Was this guy House, who is factually known to be Woodrow Wilson's "other self", a marxist? Did he call for a state controlled central bank and create a socialist America? These things are easy to establish independently. Why aren't those on this thread trying to prove you wrong instead of chiding you like school kids at recess?

68 posted on 05/02/2006 1:23:44 PM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: gondramB
Only if define one world government as anything except being isolationist.

Could you restate that in a manner that is understandable please?

69 posted on 05/02/2006 1:28:07 PM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Wait! The implants, don't forget the implants in our brains, slipped in through our hamburger.


70 posted on 05/02/2006 1:29:58 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Marxbites

It's a paranoid fantasy, and so filled with factual errors I don't know where to begin.

Before the fed, banks were relatively unstable, especially in the MW.

They were completley beholden to upstream "elite NE banks" --- having to sell portions of their loans at aburdly low prices and borrow funds from the upstream banks at absurd prices when cash became low.

The imposed system pissed off a lot of people who used to make a lot of money in the above system and who first spread the garbage you promote back in tday.

Now, banks are stable and loans to consumers and businesses are much easier to come by and cheaper.

Terrible!


71 posted on 05/02/2006 1:30:53 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: subterfuge

>>Only if define one world government as anything except being isolationist.

Could you restate that in a manner that is understandable please?<<

Sure.

The CFR did not like the mood of isolationism that swept the U.S. after WW1 so they wanted us to be more engaged in the world. But since they favor a strong sovereign government of the United States, that is very different from one world government.


72 posted on 05/02/2006 1:31:19 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: SE Mom

Old plan. Moved on to RFID tags in Levis.

(Levi Strauss was a JEEWWWWW, you know.)


73 posted on 05/02/2006 1:32:07 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Marxbites
Unfortunately, it*s too late to turn back now. America is doomed! There will be those who castigate anyone who knows about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission, and they will say we are "conspiracy theory idiots", but it*s only because they*re ignorant in the matter.

John McCain will undoubtedly be the GOP candidate for President and he belongs to the CRF. So does John Kerry. Surprisingly, Hillary does not, but Bill does so if she wins, he*ll still be dictating policy to her. We have allowed evil people take control of America, and I see NO WAY to stop them.

74 posted on 05/02/2006 1:33:20 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (NO GUEST WORKER PLAN! IT IS REALLY AMNESTY, SHAMNESTY OR SCAMNESTY - IT IS THE SELL OUT OF AMERICA!!)
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To: gondramB
The predate modern lobbying.

OK, maybe not lobbying in the K Street sense, but they're definitely an advocacy group, from what you're describing. Not that there's a problem with that per se, but I still find it rather interesting that its membership includes nealy all of the prominent voices in politics today, from both parties. One would think that a political advocacy group with such a membership would be quite influential indeed. Shouldn't its renown be commensurate with that? I don't understand why it's not something close to a household name.

75 posted on 05/02/2006 1:34:22 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: viaveritasvita

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76 posted on 05/02/2006 1:34:39 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Dang- you're so far ahead of me MWT:)

Wondering...if we ALL ingested what the author has, if we'd have access to the Secrets of the Universe?


77 posted on 05/02/2006 1:40:13 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: subterfuge

>>For starters, why isn't anyone questioning or looking into the first statements in this artcle? Was this guy House, who is factually known to be Woodrow Wilson's "other self", a marxist?<

Colonel House is famous. Most of us probably didn't have to look him up except to refresh our memories. He's not gonna be very popular on Freep (especially with the flat taxes) because of his association with the graduated income tax.



78 posted on 05/02/2006 1:43:26 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: inquest
>>Not that there's a problem with that per se, but I still find it rather interesting that its membership includes nealy all of the prominent voices in politics today, from both parties.<<

That's true.
There may even be a couple of Freeper members
But the isolationist question is settled - nobody in their right mind thinks we can do without imports, exports or working with other countries. These days they most ly talk about monetary and trade policy, suggestions for Asia and the middle East and promoting a high tech border security plan.

Their border plan was copied almost exactly by the homeland security department and together they still cant get it passed so its hard to argue they run the world.
79 posted on 05/02/2006 1:47:48 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: gondramB

Read their own history at their site.

I have, and what I detected was just a bit too much of that "me thinks he doth protest too much" flavor.

BTW, did you see ex Fed Gov Alice Rivlin interview Forbes on his Flat Tax book on C-Span? I did, and she's a socialist thru and thru. In fact I looked her up and had a three message email volley w/her, until she wouldn't/couldn't answer/admit her statements were Marxist.


80 posted on 05/02/2006 1:50:52 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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