Lacrosse players face old charges (Nifong retaliates against Duke Lax)

News & Observer ^ | April 25, 2006 | Benjamin Niolet and Joseph Neff

[sissyjane]

I think you mean Pinnocchio!!

I know we don't need DNA tests...We need a lie detector test...poor Pinnochio better be telling the truth ;-)

[investigateworld]

(Again, just word on the street, but Pinocchio, ain't showing his lumber if you know what I mean. But his kindly old father is ...but ya didn't hear that from me)

[JLS]

You are cracking me up.

[snarkytart]

okay, now I am trying to figure out whether you are joking or actually giving a hint about something.

*scratches head*

[snarkytart]

You are cracking me up.

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ok. I guess it was a joke.

I am up too late tonight.

lol

[investigateworld]

Hey just passing on what I'm hearing.
Pinocchio has hit the skids since stardom.

Like he's doing 3-4 pints of Scott's Liquid Gold every day...see what I mean?

Then that disasterous affair with Weyland's Madam character.

[JLS]

Well I knew there was a substance abuse issue here someplace. At least one such issue.

BTW, what do I make of the number of your last post? :-)

[snarkytart]

Well I knew there was a substance abuse issue here someplace. At least one such issue.

BTW, what do I make of the number of your last post?

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That happens on every big thread. ;-)

[investigateworld]

LOL I noted that!

Maybe I ride a pale wooden hobby horse.

(and my previous posts make as much sense as NiFongs legal theory's.)

[JLS]

Maybe I ride a pale wooden hobby horse.
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So can you account for where your wooden hobby horse was on the night in question and is it of age to drink?

[investigateworld]

Uhhh ... Move to strike that question, against judicial interest!

[Howlin]

Hey, question: if this girl had told the DA she had been raped with a broom, wouldn't they have looked for the broom at the house?

I didn't see it on the search warrant. Wonder why.

[cherry]

"This false allegation has ruined many lives, and yet the accuser will walk away as the victim...very sickening"

IMO...I think we should be very clear that none of us know exactly what happened that night.....the only thing perfectly obvious is that the DA has a vendetta for some reason against the young men, he seems to have very little in hard evidence, and he has been horribly unprofessional to the point that all charges could conceivably be dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct, me thinks......

I think those players were jerks and idiots.....I would be ashamed if any of them were my sons.....but that does not make them rapists......

[JLS]

Hey, question: if this girl had told the DA she had been raped with a broom, wouldn't they have looked for the broom at the house?

I didn't see it on the search warrant. Wonder why.
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My guess is that:

1. They found "DNA" on her, as she knew they would.

2. She did not know that "DNA" could be matched to a particular person.

Since one of the attendees at the event make a crude remark about an broomstick like object he was holding, that became her supporters fallback position when there was no DNA match.

[investigateworld]

Absolutely!

Plus lot's of boiler plate language such as "brooms, blunt end objects consistent with size... shape...", plus language such as 'rags, cleaning materials/or similar objects', plus such terms as 'body fluids' which would allow using a lazer/black light.
Basically, the search warrant tries to say what is to be seized vs. a 'fishing expedition' which will get it kicked on appeal.

I think Nifong's biggest error was thinking nobody would lie to him. He was confident there would be DNA. There was three subjects, a fresh examine ...?
Heck that stuff is every where, just ask Bill Clinton lol. When it wasn't 'referenced' in the first affidavit, he looks like he's painted himself into a corner. (I'm beginning to think he's smoking wacky tabbacy and watching "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" for inspiration points.)

[JLS]

... the only thing perfectly obvious is that the DA has a vendetta for some reason against the young men, ...
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Nope, the DA does not have a vendetta against these boys. He has an election to win and one African-American and one female opponent. He does not have time to have a vendetta nor any feelings toward these guys. They are merely an opportunity to him.

Now admittedly the DA is dumb and is alienating European-America Durham, his more natural constituency. But his motive is very clearly political.

[cherry]

"Ahhhh! The men in suits. Were they blue or grey suits? I can't remember"

grey......those were the days, weren't they?....LOL...btw.....I for one believed Q pretty much from day one....still do....but maybe he had more opinion that actual fact..

[investigateworld]

Dumb?
Beyond dumb!! (as Howlin was trying to 'splain to me)
In my limited experience a DA would kick back and say "When the Police present the case to me then I'll give it my full bla blah & more blah. He failed in the No. 1 guber'mint employee rule; "thou must allowest others to taketh the blame, step thy foot forward only when thy risk has passeth".

[investigateworld]

Opps fergot rule, see previous post

[Jezebelle]

The U.S. Attorney's office is the head copshop for D.C.. D.C. has no state or county officers because it isn't a state or county. It is a federal district only.