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This was MY THEORY .. KIM Stole the $400.00 That's why the boys were heard yelling (by the neighbor) as the dancers were leaving .. they're leaving with our Money
1 posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:08 AM PDT by OakOak
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PING !


2 posted on 04/21/2006 12:57:02 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying," Thomas said.

Conviction for embezzling $25,000. Lied in the first 911 call about what she was doing and lied to the Kroger security guard about how she happened to have the accuser in the car.

What a witness.

7 posted on 04/21/2006 1:07:27 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police - including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.

The players' attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.

"They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick," she said.

The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

Very interesting how the AP is not saying that Kim is confirming the accuser's tale about both women being coaxed back into house with an apology, getting separated, with the accuser in the bathroom. This version is only attributed to the accuser. To the contrary, Kim won't discuss the details.

Kim's version may be that the accuser went back to get her shoe, and THAT'S when someone must have pulled her into the bathroom and raped her, if they did so, while Kim was waiting in the car.

Kim is clearly not the brightest bulb for sending that email in the way she did.

The defense needs to sit on the rest of photos and videos they have until Kim gets out on her limb with the details of what she says happens.

8 posted on 04/21/2006 1:13:49 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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While it is technically possible to rape a whore, it's damned hard to prove.
11 posted on 04/21/2006 1:21:33 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Bend over and think of England.)
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To: OakOak

Could you explain the thread title? I can't figure out what "dancer now questions doubts about accuser" means. Thanks.


13 posted on 04/21/2006 1:25:40 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: OakOak

Unbelievable!


19 posted on 04/21/2006 1:40:32 AM PDT by Ken H
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Well, well, well ...

... a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change."

Isn't he 6'3" or 6'4"?

Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann's face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty - whom she described as the "little skinny one."

There goes what credibility was left.

..."Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."
36 posted on 04/21/2006 2:11:19 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: OakOak

Who cares if they stole $400. Robbery, even rape doesn't stack up against name calling. (This applies even if one of the callees is passed out drunk.) This logic brought to you courtesy the MSM and PC.


51 posted on 04/21/2006 2:51:01 AM PDT by hershey
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Kim Roberts: "Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."

LOL!She didn't "ask" to be in "this" position. Right. Someone forced to her strip, to lie, in order to feed her daughter.

Hmm. The alleged victim was former military. Kim Roberts (if this is the Kim on record for embezzeling, in link) is offspring of military. Let's see how that'all gets spun in "Let's Play Dialing for Dollars in the Media Court".

63 posted on 04/21/2006 3:08:00 AM PDT by Alia
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We know her last name now?????

(slapping my head) Where have I been?


77 posted on 04/21/2006 3:25:07 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated.

What I don't understand is if they were both in the house at one time, and one was being brutally raped, what was happening to the other stripper? I assume since there was no accusation she was just fine--so we're to believe these "animals" raped one stripper and just, say, casually chatted the other one up for half an hour, and all the while she doesn't wonder where her friend is? Doesn't make sense to me.
84 posted on 04/21/2006 3:29:04 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: OakOak

I bet Kim would say just about anything to stay out of jail.


87 posted on 04/21/2006 3:31:29 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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89 posted on 04/21/2006 3:32:56 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: OakOak

So she doesn't doubt her doubts beyond a shadow of a doubt?

"If you don't doubt beyond a shadow of a doubt that it fits, then you must, um, er, . . . . . never mind."


107 posted on 04/21/2006 3:50:08 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

So, defending yourself indicates guilt?

122 posted on 04/21/2006 4:01:32 AM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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This was MY THEORY .. KIM Stole the $400.00 That's why the boys were heard yelling (by the neighbor) as the dancers were leaving .. they're leaving with our Money

There were paid to work for two hours and I don't think they wored 15 minutes

135 posted on 04/21/2006 4:22:51 AM PDT by Always Right
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Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

The DA may as well pay his witnesses. It looks like he did.

142 posted on 04/21/2006 4:35:00 AM PDT by Peach
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"with visions of settlment-splitting dancing in her head"


145 posted on 04/21/2006 4:37:18 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Too soon to remember??? How about TOO SOON TO FORGET!" from Mr. Silverback)
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I don't think Miss Kim Roberts would know "honest to God" if it bit her in her much-flaunted @$$. And to question the boys' "character" when her checkered past is full of lies and deceit is beyond the pale. How ANYBODY (including talking heads so vehemently against "those rapists") can put one iota of faith in these two's ever-changing testimony is beyond understanding.


228 posted on 04/21/2006 6:06:53 AM PDT by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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There's a lesson buried in this story...

"Payroll specialist" + embezzlement = "31-year old exotic dancer"


331 posted on 04/21/2006 7:42:30 AM PDT by Redcloak (Messing up perfectly good threads since 1998.)
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