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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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To: Scotswife

So you're calling Yankees ignorant?


741 posted on 04/18/2006 8:51:18 AM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: jude24
Prosecutors proved rape cases without DNA for centuries - and, if the assailants wore a condom, they might not leave DNA anyway. Absence of DNA needs to be explained, but it is not conclusive evidence disproving rape.

Mangum claims that 3 of the players brutally beat, strangled and raped her vaginally, anally, and orally for 30 minutes. To think that that much intimate physical contact could have occurred with NO transfer of DNA material is fantasy.

the fact that a grand jury found reason to believe a crime had been committed suggests that these allegations have at least some credibility.

The grand jury returned 81 indictments plus the 2 sealed ones against the players. They met for 2 hours. Thats less than 90 seconds per indictment. How much time do you think they spent "evaluating" the evidence or lack thereof? They rubber stamped them for the DA.

742 posted on 04/18/2006 8:51:22 AM PDT by schooter (Lynching white boys for black votes)
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To: Crawdad

Populations are increasing in the South and mid Atlantic states ....due in large part to Northern immigrants who say they find the weather and the people more hospitable.


743 posted on 04/18/2006 8:51:30 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: ZULU
Clearly you know nothing about Duke.

Or any other school for that matter. Just about every university recruits athletes for specific sports and those kids are offered scholarships to attend if they have superior athletic talent.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your bias against everyone more successful than you.

744 posted on 04/18/2006 8:51:34 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Peach

"Stating the obvious. But complaining about freepers gossiping. But not skipping the thread which is odd since it annoys you so much."

Well really...it's gone beyond that now.
Because I've pointed out that the public does not know as much as the investigators I have been labelled a troll, a liar, a racist,illogical, emotional, and a disgrace.






745 posted on 04/18/2006 8:51:41 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Andy'smom; All
Let's see if we can all ignore the race/class baiters on this thread.

And let's face it -- some of the posters on this thread are trolling and/or posting misinformation.

746 posted on 04/18/2006 8:52:13 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Crawdad

"So you're calling Yankees ignorant?"

Nope.
You're joking, right?



747 posted on 04/18/2006 8:52:36 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: mtbrandon49

It doesn't make any difference to me what their color was and that's the first anyone indicated that one was white.

The witness who came forward was described as black and so was the victim.

So how many party girls did these little creeps invite to their orgy anyway????


748 posted on 04/18/2006 8:52:45 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: GAgal

Clearly trying to do an endrun around the attorneys for the boys is an act of desperation, proving the DA is desperate for something, anything, to hang on these boys.


749 posted on 04/18/2006 8:53:15 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: ZULU

Regarding whether the stripper is a prostitute, we don't know that but we do know, from her own words in an interview, that she performed one-on-ones about 3 times a week.

As to the lack of DNA, the stripper claims she fought off three men for 30 minutes. Surely there would be their DNA under her fingernails. At the least. There was no DNA associated with the players and the stripper, according to the DA's own admission.


750 posted on 04/18/2006 8:53:18 AM PDT by Peach
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To: jude24
But, the fact that a grand jury found reason to believe a crime had been committed suggests that these allegations have at least some credibility.

Not when they only heard one side of the case.

751 posted on 04/18/2006 8:53:20 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: old_sage_says

14th.


752 posted on 04/18/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: ZULU
And I don't think schools like Duke are populated by lower class individuals there on a needs scholarship.

You think wrong. One-third of Duke students get need-based aid. In addition there are merit scholarships.

I am surprised by the number of people on FR who dislike anyone who they think has more money than they do.

753 posted on 04/18/2006 8:54:13 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ZULU
And I don't think schools like Duke are populated by lower class individuals there on a needs scholarship.

I taught several students who went to Duke from non-magnet public high schools. A few were moderately well off. Most were very middle class students who earned nonathletic scholarships. What they had in common was their outstanding academic achievement in high school.

754 posted on 04/18/2006 8:54:15 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Howlin
I second that motion. LOL.

Let's not feed the troll and disruptor.

755 posted on 04/18/2006 8:54:34 AM PDT by Peach
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To: LWalk18

I think the lacrosse scholarship total is now 13 ships, which can be split between team members. There are likely a couple of players who received full rides but most receive partial athletic scholarships, along with any other financial aid they can muster. Many of these kids will leave school with significant debt.


756 posted on 04/18/2006 8:54:36 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: Howlin

Duke Rape Indictment documents:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0418061duke1.html


757 posted on 04/18/2006 8:55:10 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: Scotswife
Hey! I live in the South and I do not understand the atmosphere surrounding this situation!
758 posted on 04/18/2006 8:55:26 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: ZULU
And I don't think schools like Duke are populated by lower class individuals there on a needs scholarship.

The most you post, the more you show you don't know what you're talking about.

Duke has blind admission.

759 posted on 04/18/2006 8:55:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Spunky
forced or manipulated nonconsensual sexual contact, including vaginal or anal intercourse, oral sex, or penetration with an object.

That is a web definition- what matters is the definition in NC. In NC, rape must include vaginal intercourse. Other forms of sexual assault (Oral, anal, or penetration with an object) fall under the sexual offense statute. The suspects were charged with both first degree rape and sexual offense.

760 posted on 04/18/2006 8:55:51 AM PDT by LWalk18
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