Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case

News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

[Peach]

I'm not irritated. I'm rather amused that someone who thinks it's all just gossip to report that the DA has himself admitted there was no DNA found on the stripper is even on this thread. By all means, carry on. We could use a little comic relief.

[LWalk18]

If GHB was used (speculation from above that there may be unknown tox screens that the DA hasn't revealed yet per Roger Kossick) wouldn't there be a separate charge for that? It wouldn't be included in the indictments for rape, kidnapping, or sexual assault, would it?

Keep in mind that the DA can add charges at a later date. Even if GHB was found in her system, it still doesn't answer the question of who gave to her or even if she injected it herself- some date rape drugs are used recreationally, I don't know if GHB is one of them.

[Peach]

Maggie - do you remember reports that Kim was in the bathroom with the accuser for those 27 minutes?

[Wallace T.]

You are correct in stating that the South was not alone in treating blacks poorly. Lynchings of blacks occurred in such un-Southern places as Duluth, Minnesota and Wilmington, Delaware, during the height of the lynching era between 1900 and 1920. There were white riots in Northern cities that became essentially anti-black pogroms, such as in New York in 1863 and Chicago in 1919. Many rural areas in the Northeast, the Midwest, and the Appalachians and Ozarks were "ethnically cleansed" of blacks in the late 1800s and early 1900s through intimidation or violence. Northern New Jersey and southeastern New York maintained slavery until the mid-1800s, and the slave states of Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware did not secede from the Union. Some Northern states, such as Ohio and Illinois, forbade black immigration into their states. In fact, the "Black Codes" imposed by Southern states within two years of Appomattox were modeled on statutes in Northern states.

However, what matters at least to the public is not what really happened, but what they believe happened. Additionally, blacks have more political power in the Southeast and the Mid-South than elsewhere in the country.

[notigar]

No, you are correct. However, GHB is 100% out of the system in literally hours. I don't know if it wouls have shown up. Obviously, this is speculation.

[Scotswife]

"I'm not irritated. I'm rather amused that someone who thinks it's all just gossip to report that the DA has himself admitted there was no DNA found on the stripper is even on this thread. By all means, carry on. We could use a little comic relief."

I'm amused that someone completely unconnected with the investigation would think they understand the case better than the police and the DA.

[CSM]

"...but no excuse for being wrongly sent to prison for 30-40 years;..."

If these boys go to prison, it is a life sentence. They will not make it out alive.

[mystery-ak]

Also, I believe that Kim says she was in the bathroom with the accused for those 27 minutes. I'm quite certain that is correct, but maybe someone can help out with that.

This 27min gap in the timeline would account for the 30min rape.....but, and a big but is Kim was in there with her....Kim is already on record saying she was in the bathroom with her, I'm curious now if she will change her story....

[PleaseNoMore]

I continue to hold my belief these boys did NOT rape this woman. I believe the woman is a liar as is her "partner" Kim. Based upon his initial statements, I believe this "father" is a liar. Nifong is an incompetent ass whose neglect in the past allowed a KNOWN child rapist to be free. He's making up for that with this case, IMO.

[Peach]

I'll wait while you show me evidence that any freeper on this thread thinks they understand the evidence better than the police or DA. I'm not in a hurry but why don't you back that statement up just a bit.

If you think it's unimportant that freepers have torn apart the lies told by the stripper/accuser, her father and that no DNA was found that links the lacrosse team with the alleged rape, I'm still amused that you're here. You obviously don't care a whit about facts but rather disrupting threads. Carry on.

[Quilla]

Wow. You must be really unhappy if you start investigating my Freeper account.

Passing one's mouse across a FReeper's name hardly constitutes an investigation. That said, I'm still giggling since reading your comment at 456.

[mystery-ak]

I didn't have to go to your profile page...all you have to do is run the mouse over your name and you get your sign-up date..

[Raycpa]

Time line on photo's. Could they be off an hour because of DST?

[maggief]

Cheshire said the time-stamped photos have a 27-minute gap between when the two women stopped dancing and when the accuser was photographed outside the house. During that period, the dancers locked themselves in a bathroom and then went outside, he said.


http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/427087.html

[AmishDude]

Also, how quickly do roofies work? Cossack I'm sure doesn't know what he's talking about. This woman would have had to take drugs from people she didn't know then they would have raped her (presumably with a condom -- the last I heard, though, that there was no evidence of any genetic material or that a condom was present) but she would have had the presence of mind to know she was raped.

I think somebody sympathetic to the prosecution was just "throwing it out there."

[GAgal]

If Kim is already "on record" as confirming she was in the bathroom with the accuser during the photo gap, that would be huge. I haven't seen that "record" though, but I certainly could have missed it.

[Peach]

I thought Kim was on record as saying she was in that bathroom for those 27 minutes too. They said they were offended by a comment by one of the players. In fact, Kim slapped one of them and went into the bathroom.

[PleaseNoMore]

Since you've has so much senseless gossip in your own situation, it only seems fitting you wouldn't want to be on a thread where there is more of the same.

[Peach]

Even if the timeline is off because of DST, the stripper was only in the house for about 35 minutes. The photos reflect the timeline and there's only a 7 minute period of time in which she could have been raped by 3 players.

[PleaseNoMore]

Is that an admission of an agitator?