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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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To: Peach

2,561 posted on 04/19/2006 7:08:17 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: I want to know

In court documents, authorities wrote that in the days after the allegations were made, the three team captains who lived at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. had listed the 40 or so team members who had been at the party. Seligmann was not on that list.

It doesn't make sense they would target Seligmann if they had been told he wasn't at the party.



The only thing I can think of is they(DA) failed in their interviews or just didn't believe them......


2,562 posted on 04/19/2006 7:10:28 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: I want to know

Pictures show he was there at the beginning of the party.
ATM and cell phone records show he left by 12:24--he couldn't have done it.


2,563 posted on 04/19/2006 7:11:15 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: mystery-ak
The only thing I can think of is they(DA) failed in their interviews or just didn't believe them......


Were they interviewed at all?
2,564 posted on 04/19/2006 7:17:30 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: maggief

Were they interviewed at all?


That's a good question....here's another one...is the DA just relying on Crystal's ID?


2,565 posted on 04/19/2006 7:19:45 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Alia

You use your imagination as to how a man can rape a without a penis. This is another day and was done with this thread yesterday.


2,566 posted on 04/19/2006 7:20:40 AM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Jezebelle
The restaurant alibi isn't real powerful.

Do we know yet if the ATM surveillance exists?
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The restaurant alibi is powerful if there is no dna connecting him and the other guy that was identified has a solid alibi. You know, once she screws up on one, how can anybody possible believe any of the others she will point to unless there is forensic evidence connecting them to her?
2,567 posted on 04/19/2006 7:23:59 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: mystery-ak

I think the DA is relying on her ID and the hospital exam.


2,568 posted on 04/19/2006 7:24:50 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: Jezebelle

It appears many of the statements made by Nancy Grace last night weren't accurate. With news of evidence supporting Seligman's alibi, it will be interesting to hear how she tries to spin her way out of it today.


2,569 posted on 04/19/2006 7:30:24 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: mystery-ak

Oh, I forgot about that!


2,570 posted on 04/19/2006 7:47:08 AM PDT by Peach
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To: maggief

That could be and would explain it, maggie.


2,571 posted on 04/19/2006 7:47:35 AM PDT by Peach
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To: cyborg

No. If vaginal penetration isn't done with a penis, and isn't done with an "object" -- it usually falls under the SODOMY laws. Not the rape laws.


2,572 posted on 04/19/2006 7:47:41 AM PDT by Alia
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To: StarFan

I sure hope there's a video at the ATM. Nancy Grace will have some other person using his card...just watch


2,573 posted on 04/19/2006 7:48:05 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Scotswife
I suspect the issues involve of black hatred of whites is more focused on the top layer of African-American society and the underclass more than the middle class. By the top layer, I mean the political class and the intellectuals and popular entertainers. At the level of black politicians, almost all of them are Democrats, and they gain their political clout in government and the Democrat Party through encouraging racial solidarity based on emphasizing the shared experience of slavery and segregation. Black intellectuals and artists are, with some exceptions (Thomas Sowell and Alan Keyes, for example), a subset of the Marxist and secular humanist class of professors, authors, etc., that dominate American academia and entertainment. Oprah Winfrey or Maya Angelou are part of the liberal establishment and say nothing that contradicts the received dogma of that establishment.

(I do not consider either of them to be anti-white, but they are part of an establishment subgroup. Black racism is far more tolerated bu this establishment than is white racism. Louis Farrakhan can hold large, open air meetings safely in many black communities. David Duke is lucky if he can rent a meeting room in a hotel far from a minority neighborhood or a college campus.)

As for the underclass, this group has numerous social pathologies that are well known: over two thirds of birth out of wedlock, fatherless homes, high levels of drug and alcohol addiction, excessive crime rates, etc. In addition to these problems that have been in existence for decades, they now find themselves in increased competition for service industry and blue collar jobs from illegal aliens. Outside of the areas of the most dense black population from Maryland to East Texas, even "legal" Hispanics now outnumber blacks. Beside the past abuses, which are periodically roiled by Black History Month and "rap" music, many blacks in the underclass believe that the illegals are here in such large numbers because of the greed of white businessmen. (They are not entirely wrong, BTW.)

You may live in a community where there is a strong black middle class and a good degree of social and community integration. The African American community may be relatively small compared to other groups. However, your particular situation is different from conditions not only in the South, but in Northern cities from Boston to Milwaukee.

2,574 posted on 04/19/2006 7:49:45 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: maggief
Were they interviewed at all?

No.

Kerry Sutton said yesterday that they all offered to meet with Nifong and tell him their side of the story, but he refused.

2,575 posted on 04/19/2006 7:49:48 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Neverforget01
There has to be video, plus the cabby is a witness, he took them to the ATM, to the fast food place, then to back the dorm.
2,576 posted on 04/19/2006 7:51:07 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Howlin
Kerry Sutton said yesterday that they all offered to meet with Nifong and tell him their side of the story, but he refused.

Duke alumni ought to form a PAC when this is over and actively work to unseat Nifong. A lesson needs to be sent to overzealous prosecutors everywhere.

After all, the woman who had Don Adams prosecuted in Philly for assaulting the fists of Teamsters with his face is still DA. Apparently, even a clearly malicious prosecution doesn't hurt prosecutors any longer. That needs to change.

2,577 posted on 04/19/2006 7:52:29 AM PDT by dirtboy (Illegal is to immigration is as methyl is to alcohol - both make a good thing toxic.)
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To: Howlin

It's lucky your niece called you. Why don't they fix the problem? That is scary. You should tell someone about the problem, if you can find someone who gives a care.


2,578 posted on 04/19/2006 7:53:30 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: Howlin

No.

Kerry Sutton said yesterday that they all offered to meet with Nifong and tell him their side of the story, but he refused.


So, the DA's office is relying strictly on Crystal's ID....not a very good move on their part...IMHO


2,579 posted on 04/19/2006 7:57:23 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Howlin

Thanks Howlin.

Did you view the Abrams Today Show video I linked up thread? I tried to screen capture the photos they aired, but to no avail.


2,580 posted on 04/19/2006 7:57:45 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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