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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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Q. Now that a lot of time has elapsed and indictments have come down, do you think the district attorney compromised anything by stating "I think a crime was committed" so early in the proceedings?

A. Yes. His career. With all the publicity this case has gotten, I doubt that his statement will make much of a difference when it comes to being able to find some fair-minded jurors. But by making that statement, he put a lot of pressure on himself to indict some players.

And given (1) the absence of DNA evidence tying any of the players to a rape of this woman, (2) the fact that defense attorneys are already citing evidence from witnesses, as well as a commercial transaction, to show that one of the two indicted players was one of the six lacrosse players (out of 47) who didn't attend the now infamous party and the other indicted player wasn't there "at the relevant time," and (3) the woman's criminal record, he may end up being deeply embarrassed by a case that falls apart while the nation watches.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5515998

Woo Hoo


2,341 posted on 04/18/2006 8:37:01 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Howlin
A picture is worth a thousand words? Well, they've got 21,000 of them. Oh I agree - I'm just saying that the prosecution and the accuser have exhibited a pattern of changing their story to work around any conflicting evidence that the defense makes public. Note how the accuser is now floating the idea that maybe they players used a condom - this is response to the DNA evidences coming up empty.

And I'd bet my house they have video.

I bet they do too. We talked about this earlier - I wouldn't be surprised if they are holding it back unless it is really needed.

2,342 posted on 04/18/2006 8:37:07 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: chris1

I think my younger son has them on DVD. I'll watch them this weekend. Will be busy drafting an amended federal rico complaint the next few days.


2,343 posted on 04/18/2006 8:37:19 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: OakOak
Hello?

A picture is worth a thousand words? Well, they've got 21,000 of them.

You figure it out.

2,344 posted on 04/18/2006 8:37:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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For emphasis: DA POTENTIALLY IN TROUBLE

(3) the woman's criminal record, he may end up being deeply embarrassed by a case that falls apart while the nation watches.

SOURCE: http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5515998


2,345 posted on 04/18/2006 8:39:00 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: JeffAtlanta

And picture phones; heck, as old as we are, we use them all the time.


2,346 posted on 04/18/2006 8:39:38 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

I did.

Look at the VERY NEXT POST.

I saw VIDEO and was thinking FRAMES


2,347 posted on 04/18/2006 8:39:46 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: JeffAtlanta

Kerry Sutton made a very ominous statement on Abrams today: she said she expects him to withdraw (?) this indictment -- maybe she said drop the case -- "when he finds out what we have found out."

And Rita Cosby earlier today said that she had been in trouble before.

And that she had drinking problems.

And then somebody said on H&C somebody said she had done this before (but we all know you can't believe the TH)


2,348 posted on 04/18/2006 8:41:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: OakOak

I am almost positive they have video.


2,349 posted on 04/18/2006 8:43:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

That can't be right.

Geraldo said they would run to the DA and take plea deals this week !


2,350 posted on 04/18/2006 8:43:48 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: LK44-40

My wife's cousin is currently a Duke student. She is in London this semester but is a pretty social person. She is also a sophomore like the two suspects.

It will be interesting getting the inside scoop on this stuff over the 4th of July when we see her. Of course, she is in the Young Democrats or whatever that lame group is called, so I imagine she may be a bit skewed. However, if she knows some of the players, maybe this will offset her politics.


2,351 posted on 04/18/2006 8:43:55 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: Howlin
Kerry Sutton made a very ominous statement on Abrams today: she said she expects him to withdraw (?) this indictment -- maybe she said drop the case -- "when he finds out what we have found out."

I'm thinking that she has pulled this before. That would be the only thing that would possibly get through to the DA.

BTW, did you see that woman on Hannity & Colmes that is protesting at military funerals? Even Colmes came down on her hard.

2,352 posted on 04/18/2006 8:43:57 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Howlin

I'm with ya.

We may not see it though. Colin Flannerity's attorney said tonight that he's not going to say another word until the trial. That was right after he said it was the largest miscarriage of justice he's ever seen.

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2,353 posted on 04/18/2006 8:45:15 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Howlin

You know, when I found that one of the two guys the DA nailed had priors, I thought, "That dumb DA had better have checked this guy's alibis because he's just trying to indict whomever he can demonize." Looks like he didn't check closely enough.


2,354 posted on 04/18/2006 8:46:27 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: Howlin

It's like the story "to kill a mockingbird" upside down.


2,355 posted on 04/18/2006 8:47:06 PM PDT by roadrunner96
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To: Howlin
This is assuming there is a set timeline, or course. Or one that has stayed intact for over a day without some adjusting.

What a sham. I'm not sure I've ever seen such ineptitude by a district attorney. I've said it before, but this Nifong guy makes Mark Hulbert look like Eliot Ness.
2,356 posted on 04/18/2006 8:47:52 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: JeffAtlanta
BTW, did you see that woman on Hannity & Colmes that is protesting at military funerals? Even Colmes came down on her hard.

That's Fred "God hates fags" Phelps' daughter.

She came across as so rehearsed I'm beginning to wonder if this whole thing isn't some kind of sick act. Michael Smerconish made such a fool of him last week on Scarborough's show that Phelps was reduced to a stuttering mess.

2,357 posted on 04/18/2006 8:47:58 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: pepperhead

"I think they think you should save them for the trial. I say BS. You don't want to go to trial. Anything that can short circuit the prosecution case should be done ASAP. Maybe they will get lucky and get a good judge that will end this case before it gets started."

I believe they did wait, until the indictments, to present more substantial alibis. They are still holding back (third accuser to be named(?), discovery) but if the facts are true that the defense can easily prove that the newly accused had already left or were not near her (atm receipts, cell calls, photos) then they can probably get this dismissed before trial.

I would consider waiting three weeks, while concurrently stating in ambiguous terms their innocence(we have photos, video that will prove their innocence via timeline, opportunity, pre-existing conditions of the accuser etc.)as being VERY patient in the context of national coverage, unpoved allegations, Jessee Jackson and others race baiting, attorney/prosecutor pundits galore.

Once discovery is done, those photos hopefully will flow all over the web, released, leaked or what not.


2,358 posted on 04/18/2006 8:47:58 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Reid...Kerry...Rockefeller. They were unable to attend due to a prior lack of commitment." - Cheney)
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To: jiggyboy

Rainy in Nebraska but everything looks fine on the west coast.


2,359 posted on 04/18/2006 8:48:58 PM PDT by schooter (Lynching white boys for black votes)
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To: AmishDude

It's out there .. Don't know exactly from whom.. But CNN Headline news said at 11:30 pm that Defense sources say BOTH players were not at the party at that time of the alleged crime.

Attorneys get burned, all too often, by believing their clients. These guys, with their Reputations, aren't going to inform National reporters that they have something if they don't. I think player #2 has something to prove he wasn't there too. I just don't think it's been said what proof it is.


2,360 posted on 04/18/2006 8:50:30 PM PDT by OakOak
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