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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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To: chris1

I think there's some merit to that. In a race-conscious city like Durham, letting two black women into your house late at night spells trouble.


1,641 posted on 04/18/2006 2:19:24 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the timeline Howlin! ;)

(Dang....that was a short strip show!)

1,642 posted on 04/18/2006 2:19:47 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: Peach

She is a prostitute. She's a call-girl. That's what "escorts" are. They aren't paid dates for the opera.


1,643 posted on 04/18/2006 2:20:39 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

My suggestion is that the team players say the RED NAIL Polish and nails were theirs. They should say they are regular cross-dressers.

Then the media will swing to their side.


1,644 posted on 04/18/2006 2:21:12 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Peach

Bump!


1,645 posted on 04/18/2006 2:21:25 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (The tree never falls far from the apple.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
No DNA or just no DNA that matched the DNA of the 46 Lacrosse players who willingly donated theirs?

When the DNA results came back, most of us understood that one of the defense lawyers said no DNA of any kind - she had no sex that night at all. Keep in mind that none of her DNA was found in the bathroom - bath mat, towels, etc. were tested. This is after a violent 30 minute struggle.

It's way back in one of the threads. Sorry, you'll have to find it yourself.

1,646 posted on 04/18/2006 2:21:30 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Howlin
They claim the accuser was polishing her nails in the bathroom between 12:10 a.m. and 12:30 a.m. - - not being raped.

Sounds like there's a very good chance she might have been "huffing" (sniffing the polish) pretty heavily while she was in the bathroom doing her nails too - it's consistent with the sudden stumbling stupor reported by her fellow dancer, too. This abc analysis is pretty detailed in its observations and seems awfully damning against the accuser's version(s) of events. I'm still not convinced either way (haven't been following it as closely as most folks here) but good lord these guys are lucky they live in a time when cell phone cameras are so ubiquitous. Their families' cellular plans might be what eventually prove this woman is one sick cookie.

1,647 posted on 04/18/2006 2:23:46 PM PDT by leilani
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To: chris1

I grew up on Long Island, and MOST of the guys I knew, my brother included played lacrosse, most went to college on scholarships. My brother (UMASS) our dad was a carpenter, brother's best friend (Delaware), dad was a barber, my bestfriends brother (Ohio-Weslyan), parents owned a pizzeria, another teammate of my brother (John Hopkins), dad was a postman, I could go on and on. Sure their were some with money but I can attest to the fact that the ones I knew weren't country club kids. Would it be fair to say football players are stupid, basketball players are gangsta thugs or all figure skaters are gay?


1,648 posted on 04/18/2006 2:24:14 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: chris1
Actually, I wondered the same thing at first. I've concluded if you are on a sports team and want to do something that could cause you damage if publicized, the best thing to do is keep it in a private location. If they went to a strip club (unless they rented it privately) there's always the chance that someone from UNC would be there and want to embarrass you. Just ask Reggie Love.
1,649 posted on 04/18/2006 2:24:50 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

It's hard for me to believe that the defense lawyer would hold that information back. A good lawyer would take all steps available to avoid the arrest of his client, because that arrest leaves a permanent stigma, even if he's exonerated. I think Nifong refused to look at it. He was bound and determined to arrest SOMEBODY.

I think this also explains DPD's evening foray into the dorm to try to question the guys about who was at the party and who wasn't.


1,650 posted on 04/18/2006 2:25:41 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: BossLady

That's a brand new synopsis of the pictures from one of the local Raleigh station, ABC11; just released at 5 p.m. Their people looked at them with a forensic scientist.


1,651 posted on 04/18/2006 2:25:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: OakOak

Placemarker - fascinating discussion.


1,652 posted on 04/18/2006 2:25:50 PM PDT by meyer (Dems are stuck on stupid. Al Gore invented stupid.)
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To: Jezebelle

I speak the truth from what really goes down. How things "should be" are much different than how things "really are."

I am from an area where you need to be cognizant of things like all the time, and know better than always assume nothing bad will happen. Bad things, like this, always get worse, never better. The minute two black female strippers showed up, they should have been escorted out of there. Imagine were this a black frat with all black guys and a white blond female "stripper"? Many of the same people on FR would not be signing the same tune.

Some Freepers, because of their location or whatever, are not that street smart from my experience.

Should race be a factor in a case like this no? No. But is it? Of course.

Having two black females in a house full of drunk white guys is just asking for trouble. I will get flamed, but it is what it is.


1,653 posted on 04/18/2006 2:25:51 PM PDT by chris1 (I)
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To: ZULU

Wow what a comeback. I'm truly in awe of your ability to cut through the muck and get straight to a non-rebuttal-rebuttal.


1,654 posted on 04/18/2006 2:26:37 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Reid...Kerry...Rockefeller. They were unable to attend due to a prior lack of commitment." - Cheney)
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To: panthermom
"Would it be fair to say football players are stupid, basketball players are gangsta thugs or all figure skaters are gay?"

Well, I played football and I would agree with the basketball player thing and the figure skater thing but just watch what you say about football players! :-)

1,655 posted on 04/18/2006 2:27:48 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The FR Canteen's Resident Equal Opportunity Male Chauvinist Pig! :-))
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To: jiggyboy

Defense attorney makes A LOT MORE MONEY if it goes to trial.


1,656 posted on 04/18/2006 2:28:15 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Jezebelle

" To my knowledge, the idea of condoms being used came from Nifong. "

Nifong was for the use of condoms before he was against them.

"I would not be surprised if condoms were used," Nifong said in an interview with the Charlotte Observer last month. "Probably an exotic dancer would not be your first choice for unprotected sex."

The Abram's Report, March 31, 2006
ABRAMS: I mean you've spoken to her. She would have said either they used condoms or they didn't.

NIFONG: Well, if you are being forced to have sex against your will, you may not necessarily notice whether or not somebody behind you is using a condom. This was not a consensual sex situation. This was a struggle, wherein she was struggling just to be able to breathe.
So I'm not sure that she would really have much way of knowing whether a condom was being used.




1,657 posted on 04/18/2006 2:28:28 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: JeffAtlanta
BUMP! The Bush twins were mauled by the same MSM liberal professionals who condemned us amateurs for daring to mention Chelsey Clinton in anything but flattering terms.
1,658 posted on 04/18/2006 2:29:11 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (The tree never falls far from the apple.)
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To: chris1

Street smarts = common sense, regardless of geography.


1,659 posted on 04/18/2006 2:30:13 PM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: panthermom

I am from Yonkers, and I went to Manhattan College. Long Island has some blue collar towns, but a lot of money too. Rye, Larchmont, Edgemont, Bronxville, Scarsdale, etc, is what I know as far as the LAX guys go.

There was a huge incident where 4 of the basketball palyers sodomized a girl with a broom handle. It was pretty well advertised at the time.


1,660 posted on 04/18/2006 2:30:25 PM PDT by chris1 (I)
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