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Former ETSU cheerleader says she was kicked off squad for being Hooters Girl
Kingsport Times-News ^ | February 1, 2006 | Sam Watson

Posted on 02/01/2006 3:43:36 AM PST by don-o

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To: tuffydoodle
If women saw men as pieces of meat the way men view women, there would be an outcry, from men, of biblical proportion.

That's why men overwhelmingly protest at bodybuilding competitions and hate Ah-Nold.

I have an 18-year-old daughter at college. And, no, I rather she didn't work at Hooters. But if she did, I'd be upset if the cheerleading coach kicked her off the team for working at Hooters. There is nothing inherently immoral about the place, and for any university or college to claim that a student working there tarnishes the school is utterly preposterous.

The coach's husband is the head BB coach. I would suspect that he has had athletes who brought disrespect upon themselves and the school. But they wouldn't be kicked off the team for one minor transgression -- especially if the player was good.

No male athletes would ever be kicked off a team for such a ridiculous reason. This is discrimination against women!

121 posted on 02/01/2006 6:45:55 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: NonLinear

Are there lots of men prostitutes or is it overwhelming women? Are most pornographic magazines geared toward women or men? Are women and men treated equally in the porno movies? Are most strip joints women strippers or men strippers?

I stand by my point, more women make money showing their stuff than men do. Hooter's wasn't named that because they are showing off birds.


122 posted on 02/01/2006 6:46:27 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: NonLinear
don't they need men to make those movies too?

Not necessarily.

123 posted on 02/01/2006 6:46:53 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Nutters, LOL! I've never heard that expression.


124 posted on 02/01/2006 6:47:45 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Maximus of Texas

This thread needs more cowbell.


125 posted on 02/01/2006 6:48:25 AM PST by countorlock (But thy strong Hours indignant work'd their wills, And beat me down and marr'd and wasted me,)
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To: don-o
I dunno. I see Paris. I see France. I see the ETSU cheerleaders' underpants.


126 posted on 02/01/2006 6:49:14 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
I agree, if it's good enough for the basketball team to attend en masse I see no problem with an 18 year old woman working there.

Sometimes we take the midget (16 & up) hockey team to Hooter's after a game but that's only when they win.

127 posted on 02/01/2006 6:49:17 AM PST by elli1
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To: Maximus of Texas

I'm waiting for a restaurant where men where tight "wife-beaters" and skin tight short shorts. Wonder what they would name it? "Boa Constrictors"? "Big Snake"? "Wonder Worms"? "Willies"? "Big Dong"?


128 posted on 02/01/2006 6:55:12 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

True story - my wife (before I met her) was on a field trip of some sort w/ a teacher (a personal friend) and a bunch of eighth-grade boys, including her son. They went to Hooters for lunch and the kids all got pics w/ the waitresses. Naturally, the boys were pretty happy about it.

This was about ten years ago. If that happened now, it would probably make national news.


129 posted on 02/01/2006 6:57:53 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: tuffydoodle
Hooter's wasn't named that because they are showing off birds.

Ahem. 'Beuds' are 'chicks'. :) From the English2American.com dictionary:

bird n. pron. "beud" (London); "burd" (Scotland). Woman. Again. Well, not really. Bird is used when one is looking upon the fairer sex with a slightly more carnal eye. It's not quite at the stage of treating women as objects but the implication is certainly there. Likely to be used in the context "I shagged some random bird last night" (a popular usage) or "hey, Andy, I think those birds over there are looking at us". You'd never describe your grandmother as a bird. It's popular in Scotland to refer to one's girlfriend as "ma burd" but do it in front of her and you'll be choking teeth. About the only thing worse would be to call her "ma bint", which will warrant a foot in the testicles and a loose tongue concerning your sexual prowess. I am told the word itself is derived from the old norse word for "woman". The nearest equivalent to bird in US English is probably chick.

130 posted on 02/01/2006 7:00:02 AM PST by elli1
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To: tuffydoodle

Go to Oak Lawn in Dallas. I bet you find a place like that.


131 posted on 02/01/2006 7:00:56 AM PST by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, unleash hell)
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To: don-o

LOL! Maybe I'd better not comment since I visit that Hooters quite often!

One thing I've noticed about Hooters is that liberals, particularly liberal women, get all bent out of shape over it. They huff and puff about how horrible and "sexist" Hooters is. But if you mention strip clubs or porn, they don't have much negative to say, and instead focus on the "right of each woman" to choose to be a stripper, a porn actress, etc.

It's almost as if they hate Hooters for being kind of innocent. It's more like a beauty pageant (which they also hate) to them. Hooters features cute girls in cute outfits, but is a far cry from anything sleazy. Stuff that's actually sleazy doesn't bother liberals as much.

But that's typical, I guess. Positive Christian teachings about sex, sex roles, and homosexuality infuriate liberals, but they're quite tolerant towards Islamic rules about veils, wife beating, etc. I guess as long as something's anti-Western, it's okay.


132 posted on 02/01/2006 7:03:07 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: tuffydoodle
Sounds like they want their cheerleaders to be seen in a certain way, wholesome young ladies. Half dressed waitresses doesn't fit the image they are trying to project.

Hmmm... Have you seen a college cheerleader lately? I bet her cheerleader outfit is more revealing than her Hooters outfit.

133 posted on 02/01/2006 7:03:09 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: tuffydoodle

You appear to have an infatuation with men's penises and comparing them to women's breasts.


134 posted on 02/01/2006 7:03:51 AM PST by Rebelbase (President Bush is a Jackass when it comes to Border security .)
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To: tuffydoodle
If women saw men as pieces of meat the way men view women, there would be an outcry, from men, of biblical proportion.

You've got to be kidding. Either that, or you don't understand men very well. Yeah, I know soooooo many men who would be outraged if women viewed them as sex objects.

Most men are too smart to let themselves get treated this way. They don't try to make money off their bodies the way women do.

Separating actual prostitution from Hooters, etc., I think its the other way around. It's women who are too smart to pay men to wear skimpy clothes, and guys who are dumb enough to spend their money just to look at a girl they'll never have.

135 posted on 02/01/2006 7:09:43 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: tuffydoodle
Most men are too smart to let themselves get treated this way. They don't try to make money off their bodies the way women do.

I think it's less about being smart and more like who'd pay to see most of US?

136 posted on 02/01/2006 7:09:43 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: elli1
Sometimes we take the midget (16 & up) hockey team to Hooter's after a game but that's only when they win.

If this doesn't motivate 16-18 year olds to win, I don't know what will.

137 posted on 02/01/2006 7:09:57 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: tuffydoodle
Are there lots of men prostitutes or is it overwhelming women? Are most pornographic magazines geared toward women or men? Are women and men treated equally in the porno movies? Are most strip joints women strippers or men strippers?

I stand by my point, more women make money showing their stuff than men do. Hooter's wasn't named that because they are showing off birds.


Oh, I get it! Hooters is like the marijuana of porn...it leads to strip jobs, porn appearances and then prostitution. I never knew that before.

If you have a gripe against the porn industry, then you are rightly justified. If you think Hooters is the equivalent of either a strip club or a porn movie, you are quite delusional.

I've been to Hooters once. There were no nekkid people, no obvious perverts, no lap dances, nothing more erotic than a tank top worn by a pleasant waitress who was busy waitressing, and earning decent tips by doing what waiters and waitresses do everywhere...serving food and drink. If the wings were any good, I'd go back, but I didn't personally care for them. Some people do.

If the cheerleader had been appearing in porno movies, or arrested for prostitution, the university would have a point. As it is, they appear ridiculous.
138 posted on 02/01/2006 7:10:17 AM PST by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: Maximus of Texas
"Coach Tammy Bartow" Yeah, baby!

The head coach has the same last name, so I assume the Cheerleader coach is his wife.

139 posted on 02/01/2006 7:15:23 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

She can be called anything she wants. She is hot!


140 posted on 02/01/2006 7:21:28 AM PST by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, unleash hell)
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