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PORN-AGAIN STAR (actor Stephen Baldwin, born-again Christian, acts against nabe sex shop)
NY POST ^ | 1/18/06 | BILL HOFFMANN and HASANI GITTENS

Posted on 01/18/2006 8:08:47 AM PST by Liz

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To: DJ MacWoW

I'm curious. Why would you feel so ashamed if you went into an adult store and why do you think others would feel shamed? Like I've stated before, I don't want them in my neighborhood, but publishing photos and exploiting people who go there seems a bit over the top. Perhaps you should join Baldwin and then you both could split the legal costs of those suits you will receive.


321 posted on 01/18/2006 7:21:21 PM PST by RTINSC (There is no guarantee of Success but Failure is guaranteed if you are not successful..)
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To: DJ MacWoW
People would laugh about it as that behaviour isn't normally considered on par with porn.

Personally I consider it much, much worse. Alcoholics destroy themselves and their families utterly. They are a menace on the roads and account for vastly disproportionate amount of crime and absenteeism. None of that happens when a guy buys a dirty magazine or a woman buys a vibrator.

322 posted on 01/18/2006 7:24:45 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: DJ MacWoW

"....isn't that a hint they believe it's wrong?"

What exactly do you think is wrong? If someone buys a vibrator in an adult store, what has he/she done wrong? Is it morally wrong to buy a vibrator, red condoms, sexy lingerie? This is not porn, is it? I might have a different point of view if we're talking about porn. But you and Baldwin are willing to catch people in your moral net without responsibility. But you will be sued. Better have deep pockets.


323 posted on 01/18/2006 7:31:49 PM PST by RTINSC (There is no guarantee of Success but Failure is guaranteed if you are not successful..)
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To: elmer fudd
Sex addicts and alcohol addicts both do immeasurable harm to families.

Go ahead and defend sexual deviance. Not a pretty thing to do.

324 posted on 01/18/2006 7:32:37 PM PST by what's up
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To: RTINSC
Why would you feel so ashamed if you went into an adult store and why do you think others would feel shamed?

LOL!!! YOU'RE the one that kept saying it. Not me!

but publishing photos and exploiting people who go there seems a bit over the top

As opposed to ogling pics of complete strangers that are denigrating to them?

325 posted on 01/18/2006 7:33:59 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: RTINSC
You say, "Like I've stated before, I don't want them in my neighborhood"

Why not?

326 posted on 01/18/2006 7:37:43 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

"Go ahead and defend sexual deviance. Not a pretty thing to do."

I haven't read anything in Fudd's post where he defends sexual deviance. With all due respect, reading a men's magazine or owning a vibrator does not rise to the level of sexual deviance.

Do you think it's OK to publish photos of patrons of an adult store with the implication they are immoral or of bad character?


327 posted on 01/18/2006 7:42:33 PM PST by RTINSC (There is no guarantee of Success but Failure is guaranteed if you are not successful..)
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To: what's up

I don't want them in my neighborhood because it is a business that should be away from children. There are many families with children where I live. IMO it also diminishes the property value of surrounding areas. As long as it is a legal business and operated legally, I have no problem with them.


328 posted on 01/18/2006 7:48:01 PM PST by RTINSC (There is no guarantee of Success but Failure is guaranteed if you are not successful..)
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To: RTINSC


And you didn't answer the question. Why wouldn't you want a porn shop in your neighborhood.


329 posted on 01/18/2006 7:50:01 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
OK...I see you did answer.

"that should be away from children"

Should? Who says so?

330 posted on 01/18/2006 7:51:18 PM PST by what's up
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To: elmer fudd
Alcoholics destroy themselves and their families utterly.

And pornographers only destroy strangers? Other people kids?

None of that happens when a guy buys a dirty magazine or a woman buys a vibrator.

Degradation of someone ELSE is accetable?

331 posted on 01/18/2006 7:52:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: RTINSC
But you and Baldwin are willing to catch people in your moral net without responsibility.

As I said before you need to get a grip. Morals DO matter. Studying the Bill Clinton method of morality? Better put some ice on that.

332 posted on 01/18/2006 7:55:44 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: what's up

I think they should. You don't like my answer? What should the answer be, in your opinion?


333 posted on 01/18/2006 7:56:12 PM PST by RTINSC (There is no guarantee of Success but Failure is guaranteed if you are not successful..)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You are not equpped to lecture others on morality. There is ample evidence of that from reading your posts.


334 posted on 01/18/2006 7:57:59 PM PST by RTINSC (There is no guarantee of Success but Failure is guaranteed if you are not successful..)
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To: RTINSC
You are not equpped to lecture others on morality. There is ample evidence of that from reading your posts.

Really? Based on what? At least I HAVE a moral barometer.

335 posted on 01/18/2006 7:59:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

That's a problem when people feel Christians have to look a certain way. My best friend has her nose pierced and there are some ladies with tatoos in my church And my pastor has dreadlocks. I am terribly cute, but we all love Jesus.


336 posted on 01/18/2006 7:59:31 PM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: RTINSC

Why should they if they are doing nothing wrong?


337 posted on 01/18/2006 7:59:53 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

You won't hear me defending sexual deviance. If you get off on anything that harms yourself or others, depicts that harm, or involves nonconsentual activity you're a sicko. I've got no problem with sentencing molesters, child pornographers and rapists to life in prison, castration or death. It's what they deserve.


338 posted on 01/18/2006 8:01:13 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: elmer fudd
You won't hear me defending sexual deviance. If you get off on anything that harms yourself or others, depicts that harm, or involves nonconsentual activity you're a sicko. I've got no problem with sentencing molesters, child pornographers and rapists to life in prison, castration or death. It's what they deserve.

Thank you. But I'd leave out death and castration. They are now doing "civil confinements" of dangerous predators after they serve their sentences.

339 posted on 01/18/2006 8:03:25 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Degradation of someone ELSE is accetable?

I don't consider sex to be degrading.

340 posted on 01/18/2006 8:03:47 PM PST by elmer fudd
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