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(Vanity) One simple question about Miers (Vanity)
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Posted on 10/10/2005 7:13:24 PM PDT by birbear

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To: evad

True. I should have mentioned that. W has maybe 45 votes in the Senate. Never mind that there are 55 with (R) after their name - too many of them are not even close to being either Republican or Conservative.


41 posted on 10/10/2005 7:37:12 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: birbear

Nominal majority, practical minority.


42 posted on 10/10/2005 7:38:12 PM PDT by dighton
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To: birbear

There are several reasons. Their names are:

Voinovich
Specter
DeWine
Snowe
. . .

In short, the senate though nominally Republican is not actually conservative and will happily melt in the face of partisan pressure. Head Democrat Reid -- who actually runs the senate-- said okay to Mier so RINOs will also say okay.

Its pretty simple.


43 posted on 10/10/2005 7:38:15 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: LikeLight
LikeLight wrote: (When do the hearings start?) Anyone know? The sooner we can get Miers talking, the sooner we can move forward - whether it turns out she's a dud or a star. All this idle speculation is taking a toll.

They're looking at Oct. 31 so they can have everything done before the Thanksgiving recess.

44 posted on 10/10/2005 7:38:22 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: NittanyLion; birbear
He's afraid of a fight.

Afraid of a fight? Come on, let's be fair, the man has put up how many judicial nominees that met a filibuster? And what about Bolton? He's not afraid of a fight, he's come to realize what kind of soldiers he has in the Senate. So what were his realistic choices? Take a chance and nominate someone from the gang of 14's list or nominate someone he believes will be a reliable conservative voice for the next 20 years?

45 posted on 10/10/2005 7:40:02 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: birbear
If Specter is one of the main problems, then Bush created it by not campaigning for Toomey, and should be held to account for it.
46 posted on 10/10/2005 7:40:03 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: birbear
It's a political calculation. Bush loves to pick from those around him and even better if they're from his days in Texas. A pundit on the Sunday shows said Bush's supposedly angry that Gonzales couldn't possibly be nominated. Might've been George Will but I don't quote me on it. I only listened to This Week on Sunday.

I believe the hardworking base was "misunderestimated."

Bush is not a real conservative despite his evangelical faith. Plenty of self-identified Evangelical Christians vote Democrat.

There's a whisper campaign Miers is a lesbian. She's 60 and has never been married. There's a lawyer now at Ford who may or may not have been a long term boyfriend.

47 posted on 10/10/2005 7:42:12 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: dawn53
So why should we think the President should be able to push through a controversial (to the Dems that is, but also to folks like Specter or Warner) SC nominee.

The Senate didn't approve or reject Bolton after having ample time to do so. A recess SCOTUS appointment would drive the Senate bonkers. But hey, if they won't vote, what's the President to do?

48 posted on 10/10/2005 7:45:38 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: birbear
The question:

Why DIDN'T Bush nomiate one of the more popular, well known conservatives to be his Supreme Court nominee?

Because they wouldn't rule the way he wanted them to, frankly.

49 posted on 10/10/2005 7:46:54 PM PDT by planekT (Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player.)
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To: DTogo

"If Specter is one of the main problems, then Bush created it by not campaigning for Toomey, and should be held to account for it."

Deserves repeating. Who cares about "tradition". Specter is a phony, we've got a conservative agenda to push though.

BTW, bush is doing more of the same, supporting chaffee over a more conservative for the race in RI.


50 posted on 10/10/2005 7:51:02 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: birbear

Bush knows there are 55 Republicans in the Senate and most of them are whimps who can't stand up to the Democrat minority. A known conservative nominee would be filibustered by the Dem's and the Republican Senators would whimp out AGAIN!!


51 posted on 10/10/2005 7:55:07 PM PDT by kdm_houston
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To: Betaille

The fact is, we have tens of thousands of qualified citizens and the President can only choose one. I don't subscribe to the snobbery that proclaims only a trained jurist is capable of reading and comprehending a document written for farmers.


52 posted on 10/10/2005 7:56:46 PM PDT by jess35
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To: digger48

A Supreme Court nominee goes to a floor vote even if the Judiciary Committee doesn't vote in favor..


53 posted on 10/10/2005 7:58:57 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Cedric

Is at ere bigger then a reglur storke?


54 posted on 10/10/2005 8:01:41 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Betaille

This is my one big objection to Harriet Miers. I don't know enough about her to make a judgement yet about what kind of a justice she would be. However, there are many excellent judges who have proudly and openly stood by their conservative beliefs. They played by the rules and deserved a chance.

Cindie


55 posted on 10/10/2005 8:04:47 PM PDT by gardencatz (You go girl! And take those tacky shoes with you!)
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To: Dolphy

He could have chosen a conservative with a track record, but as I said he was afraid of the fight that would ensue.


56 posted on 10/10/2005 8:14:15 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: planekT
Why DIDN'T Bush nomiate one of the more popular, well known conservatives to be his Supreme Court nominee?

Because they wouldn't rule the way he wanted them to, frankly.

I think you may be right. We conservatives have assumed that George W. Bush, in his heart of hearts, is one of us. That is why we have so often been surprised and puzzled by what he has done. (Think campaign finance reform, prescription drug benefits, border issues, government spending, and so on.)

But his policy choices are those of a moderate to liberal Republican. George W. Bush is beginning to remind me of his father, or perhaps Richard Nixon.

57 posted on 10/10/2005 8:22:13 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: NittanyLion
I said he was afraid of the fight that would ensue.

Who exactly did you want him to nominate? Unless the gang of 14 signed off they weren't going to get through the Senate. And as that short list lengthened so would questions about how that person would "evolve" in the rarefied SCOTUS air. Going to a fight when the outcome is known isn't about courage unless you think of a suicide bomber as courageous.

58 posted on 10/10/2005 8:30:28 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Logophile
That R after the name and cowboy hat on the head are certainly able to win over a lot of gullible people. Once that reaches a critical mass, then everyone else gets on board. The (usually unconscious) thought process goes something like this:

1. I can't go against him, because that would divide and weaken the party.

2. Path of least resistance: I therefore have to convince myself that he really is someone I'd want to support, so that I'll feel better about myself for not going against my principles and judgment.

59 posted on 10/10/2005 8:36:52 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: birbear

Maybe the other candidates turned Bush down!


60 posted on 10/10/2005 8:38:03 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Not too worry - we'll all be united again under the next Clinton presidency!!)
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