So, you think it’s okay to loot, do ya? – Pukin on Looting.

[Pukin Dog]

Done, thanks.

[investigateworld]

Actually if one thinks it through, the act of hiring an illegal alien vs. looting are both "misjudgments of opportunity".
Break down both acts and look at the elements:
1. Motive, save expense.
2. Overt and consciouses acts.
3. Gratification for prep: (a) Save money. (b)Something
for nothing.
4. Cost to society ....well you get the idea.
And for the record, I too would leave a sh*thole like Mexico for opportunity*.
And my personal experience during the Rodney King Riots was illegals did most of the looting in the sector I worked.
*And seeing how many of my countrymen abuse this nation, I would understand why 80% of it's citizens don't want any more of us.

[bitt]

I am outraged and greatly saddened to see such foolish and selfish people cavort in stores and shops....while others are hanging out windows waiting to be rescued.

They are complaining that the bathrooms in the Superdome are filthy - but I'll bet there weren't volunteer clean-up crews and people trying to make straight the chaos...these people are too used to having someone else make decisions for them and take care of them.

Good Rant.

[bethtopaz]

Thanks for sharing that! And I agree with your dad about Ted Kennedy. I'm a great admirer of both John and Bobby. Even though raised a Republican we loved JFK and Jacqueline and when Bobby was killed, I was 15 and I cried while we drove from Indiana to Florida to vacation for a week. They were good men who loved our country. Not perfect -- no president is, but great Americans!

[Smokin' Joe]

...why was busing, evacuation not arranged for the poor residents with no means to leave?

Everyone keeps repeating the mantra of "too poor to leave", and some, doubtless, were.

But I keep seeing video of submerged and destroyed vehicles--lots of them.

Doubtless, fuel from gas stations is leaking into the water even now. It would have been better to fill every full car that came through than let the fuel leak away.

It would have been better to drive those vehicles out of there than leave them.

better to camp out under a tarp than wait in a sewer.

The people on the overpass where Shep Smith was reporting are just waiting.

Some can't walk far, granted, but to the west vehicles are coming in, and if capable, I'd be walking out...not just sitting and waiting.

Unfortunately, the poor who have been institutionalized by government programs, who are the basis of the industry which has evolved around being poor, have been conditioned to wait for the government to "do something" rather than sieze their own initiative and do it themselves.

If that salad bar will haul DVDs and consumer electronics, it will haul Grandma, at least until the wheels fall off. Little kids can fit two or three to the shopping cart, and it is self-draining.

But it is easier to be angry and blame Richard (Rich Whiteman) than to grab your bootstraps and pull. After all, it is what many have been programmed to do.

[Smokin' Joe]

Let me get this straight.

I am lost (unlikely)/stranded/ cold and starving, in a national forest and all I have to do is shoot a squirrel and they will come take me away and give me three hots and a cot...? HEY! You might have something there.....And I could save on all that survival gear.

[Smokin' Joe]

Maybe we could exchange a willing to work guy from South of the Border for one of the no-loads here....

[beckysueb]

Here here!

[beckysueb]

...some of these same looters will be the first to blame Bush and stick out their hands for financial help.

Yep. And the MSM is doing their level best to make excuses for them and point the finger at the hardworking people who are trying their best to help these people and say no one is doing anything for them. The media is making me as sick as these looters.

[Smokin' Joe]

SUms it up pretty well for me, too. Well said.

[beckysueb]

Given the warning that the storm was coming, the evacuation order, the fact that a direct hit on NOLA was expected, why was busing, evacuation not arranged for the poor residents with no means to leave?

Bussing was offered. No one wanted to go. Hmmm. Wonder why??

[trubluolyguy]

Damn...who do I despise more, looters or illegals....?


Quandry.



Well, I have never seriously contemplated shooting illegals (just for being illegals) but looters? Hell that's target practice.

Great rant, keep 'em comin'.

[beckysueb]

I agree with you but I doubt any of the merchandise that was looted would have been recoverable two months from now anyway.I am not justifying what is going on, just saying it will all be trash anyway in a matter of days.

Probably but the owners should have a chance to assess the damage of their own property. And insurance companies may want to see the stuff they are going to pay for.

[beckysueb]

Maybe Jesse Jackson should have gone to Louisiana and tried to push for evacuation of Blacks instead of going to Venezuela to hug Chavez. Black leaders are half the problem.

And Al Sharpton instead of being in Crawford kissing up to Sheehad.

[beckysueb]

You are so right!

[Aliska]

No they probably won't lock you up for that, even if you shoot an endangered species. They will just fine you up the kazoo and you will spend hours and drive miles for lawyers, court, probation, etc. Probably more costly than getting caught drunk driving. And it was for survival.

Now we see looting beer is for survival :-).

[dervish]

"Bussing was offered. No one wanted to go. Hmmm. Wonder why??"

I am missing your implication, "why?"

Refusal was not reported at the time. It was reported that those with no transportation means were told to get to the Superdome. 10,000 evacuated to the Superdome. Are you claiming that they would not have agreed to another shelter? I'd be most interested if you have any other information on that. Further if evacuation is mandatory no choice is offered.

It seems to me that the same buses that are taking people out of the area now should have been used before the hurricane. The whole Superdome shelter idea was irresponsible, ill conceived, and unprepared. Now they can't get them out, or very slowly and with great difficulty and expense. There is tremendous disease risk as sanitation and supplies are non-existant. This was all capable of being anticipated.

FOX is reporting and showing that their are elderly, sick and in wheelchairs who have no way and no where to go. Are you suggesting that those people refused to leave?

These people are dying, now, after the flood for lack of care.

[Purdue Pete]

Please add me to your ping list. Thanks!

[dervish]

"The people on the overpass where Shep Smith was reporting are just waiting.

Some can't walk far, granted, but to the west vehicles are coming in, and if capable, I'd be walking out...not just sitting and waiting."

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How do you think they got to the overpass? Most of them had to walk to get there. I am seeing whole families with children and elderly. It is not practicable to think they can all walk. Further the news is saying contact with the water is dangerous as it is filthy with sewage and decaying bodies.



"Unfortunately, the poor who have been institutionalized by government programs, who are the basis of the industry which has evolved around being poor, have been conditioned to wait for the government to "do something" rather than sieze their own initiative and do it themselves."

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Have you ever heard the term "working poor?" Not all poor people are on handouts. You can be working and still not own transportation.

You are making a lot of negative assumptions about these people stuck in tragic circumstances outside of their control.



"If that salad bar will haul DVDs and consumer electronics, it will haul Grandma, at least until the wheels fall off. Little kids can fit two or three to the shopping cart, and it is self-draining. "

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I have seen footage of plenty of people "hauling Grandma." You are using selective sight. What percent of the people effected do you think are out there looting? I say a minute percentage, and yet it has distorted your whole perception. The fact is most are victims not criminals.

I am wondering about the lack of compassion for them. It's free.

When I read threads like this, I can understand why Blacks even with the lousy leadership vote Democrat. No big tent here.

[Smokin' Joe]

Just an observation: Very large people with skinny legs do not generally walk much. Make of it what you will.

And yes, I am painfully familliar with the concept of "working poor", I have been there. I kept working.

If the Police can drive cars down the road, I would bet they can walk down it, even with their weight unsupported by the festering cesspool below them.

But, then, I know a guy who amputated his own arm when he got wrapped up in a piece of farm machinery (because just waiting for help would have definitely been fatal), so maybe I put self-help in just a little different perspective.

If those were my children going without water and food, you can bet your ass I'd be off mine.