Sheffield Says Jeter, A-Rod Get Too Much Credit in Press

"It happens because you're white and I'm black," Sheffield told the magazine. "My interpretation of things is different. You don't see it the way I see it. You write how you understand it, how you would articulate it, not how I, as a black man, would articulate it."

Is that what this is really all about??

Lando

1 posted on 08/05/2005 4:51:11 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

To: mhking; rdb3

Ping to my FRiends,

Lando

2 posted on 08/05/2005 4:51:52 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (How many liberals does it take to win a war?)

To: Lando Lincoln

"My interpretation of things is different. You don't see it the way I see it. You write how you understand it, how you would articulate it, not how I, as a black man, would articulate it."

We're talking baseball here...how different can their perspectives be?

3 posted on 08/05/2005 4:52:37 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)

To: GraniteStateConservative

4 posted on 08/05/2005 4:52:45 PM PDT by misterrob

To: Lando Lincoln

On the other hand, I think I know where Sheffield's perspective is coming from...it's the same perspective that, sadly, a lot of minorities share, in that EVERYTHING is viewed in terms of race.

5 posted on 08/05/2005 4:54:37 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)

To: Lando Lincoln

Oh Jeeeez.....Reggie Jackson all over again (except that Sheffield ain't half the player Jax was)....

like the Yankees don't have enough shiite to deal with this year (no pitching staff)

now they've got a sulking prima donna

maybe if he talked to Matsui (NOT a 'white man') he might learn something about playing as hard as he could, doing anything for the team, being grateful for just being there and - finally - keeping his G-D mouth SHUT!!!

He had an "assistant" there to make sure the interview stayed "positive"?? Sounds like the dude needs to find another job!!

What a M-F IDIOT!!!

6 posted on 08/05/2005 4:57:57 PM PDT by Al Simmons (America's Greatest Torch Singer - Chris Webster - www.babyswan.com)

Sheffield being Sheffield....hmmmm...I like Manny being Manny better. I think the problem with the Yankees is they have too many sour-pusses.

7 posted on 08/05/2005 4:59:21 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)

To: Lando Lincoln

8 posted on 08/05/2005 5:00:12 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)

To: big'ol_freeper

I think he's just pouty because the Yanks were almost swept by my Cleveland Indians.

Go Tribe!

9 posted on 08/05/2005 5:02:36 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch

To: Lando Lincoln

It's not sheffield either:

AVG	Á. Rodríguez	.316 
 HR	Á. Rodríguez	30 
 RBI	Á. Rodríguez	85 
 R	D. Jeter	79

10 posted on 08/05/2005 5:05:04 PM PDT by rvoitier (SMILE! There's a NYT reporter in jail.)

To: Lando Lincoln

Sheffield can have an extra large STFU Slurpee as far as I'm concerned.

12 posted on 08/05/2005 5:12:15 PM PDT by rdb3 (I once had a handle on life, but I broke it.)

I agree. Yankees suck.

16 posted on 08/05/2005 5:18:37 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)

I just *KNEW* some (youngster?) wise guy would come up with something like this.

Sheffield will never hit over 500 HRs. His numbers only look better because he is playing in a hitters era. The average league ERA now is at least 1 entire run per game HIGHER than it was during Jackson's playing days. You can look it up. Probably (AT LEAST) 20 teams this year will score more runs than the 1978 World Series Champion Yankees did.

17 posted on 08/05/2005 5:18:58 PM PDT by Al Simmons (America's Greatest Torch Singer - Chris Webster - www.babyswan.com)

Part of the reason Shef has better average is that THE ENTIRE LEAGUE has a better average than in the 1970s. Plus the ballparks of today in the AL are much more hitter-friendly than they were in the mid-70s.

Defensively no one was worse than the late-middle career Jackson. I'll give you that.

I recommend you pick up Bill James' "Historical Baseball Abstract", printed about 20 years ago for an excellent discussion of the mathematical science of baseball, and myriad hilarious anecdotes.

In 1930 the ENTIRE NL hit for a .303 average because the ball was juiced; does that mean that all of those players were better than todays?. Of course not. The only way to compare players across eras (in my humble opinion) is to compare them to their contemporaries. Ex.: How many years was Jackson in the top 5 AL HR hitters? How does Sheffield compare in that regard? Do the same with batting avg., slugging pct., on-base, etc., and you'll figure out which one is a better overall player mighty quickly.

For example, we know without a scintilla of a doubt that Lefty Grove was the greatest pitcher of all time. How? a. He played his entire career as a lefty in the two worst parks for lefties in the AL (Shibe & Fenway), yet he has the highest lifetime winning pct. of any 300-game winner. b. (And more significantly), he won the league ERA title something like 8 times in those same bandbox parks - about 3 more than the next closest fella - whose name was Walter Johnson.

Incidentally, Bill James has been an advisor for the Red Sox for a number of years, and they...well...any questions?

20 posted on 08/05/2005 5:52:37 PM PDT by Al Simmons (America's Greatest Torch Singer - Chris Webster - www.babyswan.com)

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