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2nd FR weekly Baseball discussion thread, for the w/e 7/24

Posted on 07/24/2005 4:54:14 PM PDT by ken5050

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To: ken5050

No .... I do not remember why.


121 posted on 07/25/2005 11:40:42 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa; beyond the sea

95% of the problem with basbeall free-agency, and pricign otu the smaller market teams, is because Steinbrenner defines the market, then pushes up the going rate all across the league..the league is terrified of saying anything because of the multi- hundred million judgement they lost in the collusion case..What we need is for the Boss to annouce, after this season is over, is that the new policy of the Yankees is that except for their own players, they will not offer a contract longer than three years to a free agent...IMHO, the problem is NOT the money..but the multi-year contracts..a samll market team might take a chance for 2-3 years..payign big $$ for the one player that might get then over the hump..but they can't afford the long-term deals..they might get stuck with them..


122 posted on 07/25/2005 11:53:21 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050
95% of the problem with basbeall free-agency, and pricign otu the smaller market teams, is because Steinbrenner defines the market, then pushes up the going rate all across the league..the league is terrified of saying anything because of the multi- hundred million judgement they lost in the collusion case..What we need is for the Boss to annouce, after this season is over, is that the new policy of the Yankees is that except for their own players, they will not offer a contract longer than three years to a free agent...IMHO, the problem is NOT the money..but the multi-year contracts..a samll market team might take a chance for 2-3 years..payign big $$ for the one player that might get then over the hump..but they can't afford the long-term deals..they might get stuck with them..

Do the Mets have to also renounce their deals with Pedro (four years) and Beltran (seven years)? ;)

Anyhow, you can't blame the Boss for all of this. He didn't sign A-Rod to 10 years, $252 million (and he's still not paying for all of it -- the Rangers send the Yankees money for a bunch of it). He didn't give Manny Ramirez $20 million a year for the next eon. He didn't come up with Todd Helton or Ken Griffey's ridiculous contracts. Besides, the market has already corrected itself -- we won't be seeing this kinds of dollar figures again any time soon.

123 posted on 07/25/2005 12:05:57 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

Steinbrenner started the upward trend..and look at the ridiculous deal he gave the medium sized unit..RJ would have given anything to get out two more years with a lousy rattlesnake team..but he extorted a two-year contract extention..BTW..the Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla...when they cut him, he was owed I think 7 million for 2 more years..he "renegotiated his deal..he got $ 1 mill for 25 yeears.."


124 posted on 07/25/2005 12:13:28 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

Yep!


125 posted on 07/25/2005 12:15:40 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: frogjerk
1960...Wow, that was a long time ago. Are you still celebrating? I would think you would have at least moved on to 1979 with Dave Parker and Willie Stargell by now. ---- Anyway, when are the Pirates going to appear in the World Series again for a rematch?

Settle down, weeniefrogjerk.

You may find some happiness perhaps in the next life when you become an adult.

126 posted on 07/25/2005 12:19:27 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: beyond the sea
You may find some happiness perhaps in the next life when you become an adult.

OK, newbie...

127 posted on 07/25/2005 12:20:40 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk
You silly b*stard........ resorting to the same lame-o bull that they said to Ted Williams as a rookie.

Get a life, weeniejerkfrog.

128 posted on 07/25/2005 12:23:02 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: frogjerk
OK, newbie...

My, my weenie.

How much more intelligent would you have been if you had had some oxygen at birth?

129 posted on 07/25/2005 12:25:46 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: ken5050

Unless they lose one of their three top starting pitchers not only are they for real but a nightmare for the opposition. They play baseball like it used to be played and have the pitching to make it work.

Now I don't expect them to keep winning at the rate they have been but the Division seems to be pretty much a lock.


130 posted on 07/25/2005 12:39:27 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: ken5050
BTW..anything new on Rollin

Haven't heard anything since last nights rumors that he might be out for the season.

Looks like Walt will have to get into the market the way the Cards are banged up.

131 posted on 07/25/2005 12:40:29 PM PDT by SCALEMAN (Rove -- "They've got me surrounded --- the poor bastards")
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Agree..the Chisox have the division locked up..and what makes it more interesting.., is that because the WC is very likely to be the Twins..that means that Chicago will probably get the AL EAST winner in the first round..


132 posted on 07/25/2005 12:43:30 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050
Do you guys remember the old Crosley Field in Cinci, with the elevated right field porch

I remember it but never was there. Never got to a game in Cinci until they built the new stadium.

I liked Sportsmans Park, Wrigley and old Tigers stadiums.

133 posted on 07/25/2005 12:44:15 PM PDT by SCALEMAN (Rove -- "They've got me surrounded --- the poor bastards")
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Garland is likely to have 25 wins and, if so, the Cy Young will be his.


134 posted on 07/25/2005 12:45:16 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

So? Dustin Hermannson has 23 or so of 25 saves and an era close to One. That is not going to win the CY if a starter has 25 wins.


135 posted on 07/25/2005 12:47:33 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; GraniteStateConservative

Do you think Pedro has a chance for the NL CYA...?


136 posted on 07/25/2005 12:52:14 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Funny thing is that the WS losing a few has made me feel better because everything was just too damn easy up to the All Star break. WS fans are used to expecting the worst so when the team is easily beating up on the league with its Hall of Fame player about 30% we get very nervous.

But I don't think Ozzie will allow a collapse.


137 posted on 07/25/2005 1:03:00 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

not a bad way to look at it - I kinda like that!


138 posted on 07/25/2005 1:07:06 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: SoCalPol
it says a lot for the San Diego Padres to still be in first place.

Nah that just tells me the NL West sucks :)
139 posted on 07/25/2005 1:15:53 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: ken5050

As long as it is not the A's I am not worried. With such a big lead I would hope the Sox are going to use lots of players in the next two months and keep those pitchers rested too. A hundred pitches and they're outta there.


140 posted on 07/25/2005 1:18:58 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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