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Marino says he turned down chance to play for Steelers in 2000
WFRV.COM ^ | 07/21/2005 | STEVEN WINE

Posted on 07/21/2005 5:02:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"But it don't mean a thing/if you ain't got that ring. THE RING THE RING THE RING!"

Sure it does - football is a team game. Individual players don't win championships, teams do.

As comes up every thread, put Tom Brady on a bottom dweller and see how many superbowls he wins.

41 posted on 07/22/2005 7:14:58 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: mainepatsfan
Just watched Manning get picked off by Rodney Harrison in the end zone to seal their playoff loss to the Pats on NFL network.

Are you sure it wasn't Tom Brady that picked that ball off? :-) To many he is only player on that team.

42 posted on 07/22/2005 7:18:51 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Dan from Michigan
Unfortunatly for him, he and Barry Sanders are probably the two best players to play the game without winning a Super Bowl(or NFL title before then).

According to many in these threads, that makes Barry Sanders inferior to Timmy Smith and Marino inferior to Trent Dilfer.

43 posted on 07/22/2005 7:20:55 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: MarineBrat
I've often had this argument with Steeler fans: "Why didn't we draft Marino?"

Two things that people forget: A lot of teams had somewhat soured on Marino by the time the draft rolled around. He had had a mediocre senior year (compared with his junior year). Some thought he had small hands for an NFL quarterback (don't know where that came from). There were whispers of drug use at Pitt (unfounded as it turned out). In a year when five QB's were picked in the first round, he was the last on the five.

And who did the Steelers pick that year? DT Gabe Rivera from Texas Tech. Had he not had his auto accident, Rivera would have been a GREAT player. The Raiders wanted him in the worst way. I remember seeing video of him the night he was picked. Unbelieveable! 290 pounds and he could run like a deer. On the video, I saw him chase a QB down the sidelines, catch him from behind, grab him in a bearhug, and squash him like a bug. John Steigerwald called him one of the most exciting picks the Steelers had made in years. He looked great in the preseason. He had this knack for collapsing the middle of the line with a power bull rush, and then, even if he didn't reach the QB, timing his jump just right to defect the pass. He must have done that 3-4 times during the preseason.

Rivera was one of the biggest "what ifs" in Steeler history. He and Anthony Anderson. Remember him? Runningback. Temple. Look it up.

44 posted on 07/22/2005 7:39:53 AM PDT by THX 1138
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To: Zack Nguyen

Johnson tried to apply the same plan he started with 11 top picks with the Cowboys and apply them to the Dolphins. You can't do that with a talent like Marino and no HOF running back.


45 posted on 07/22/2005 7:51:55 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Lando Lincoln; Dan from Michigan; mainepatsfan

Well of the Pack would have had Sanders, they may not have traded to get Farve from the Falcons....

Barry would have made anyone look good. I mean he extended Scott Mitchell's career by 3 years!!


46 posted on 07/22/2005 9:13:43 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: MikeinIraq
You might be right Mike. But, wow, if the cosmic particles had lined up Favre and Sanders..........

Lando

47 posted on 07/22/2005 9:36:56 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (How many liberals does it take to win a war?)
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To: Lando Lincoln

yeah...it would have been good.

But I think eventually one or the other would have left, because Both are great, but neither would have been AS GREAT as they were alone I don't believe...


48 posted on 07/22/2005 9:49:09 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: dfwgator

I think it's the only one since they won their last championship in 1957.


49 posted on 07/22/2005 10:33:34 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Perdogg

I think he was more like 95% of their offense.


50 posted on 07/22/2005 10:34:15 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: JeffAtlanta

No but he did make a great throw to convert a third down deep in his own territory to keep what turned out to be the game clinching drive going.


51 posted on 07/22/2005 10:35:48 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Lando Lincoln

It would have been another Packer dynasty.


52 posted on 07/22/2005 10:36:34 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: MikeinIraq

I still can't believe Detroit gave him all that money.


53 posted on 07/22/2005 10:37:30 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: codyjacksmom

So glad that Dan decided against playing for the Vikings. Just can't stand those purple people eaters!! It would have been interesting to see what he could have done with the Steelers.


54 posted on 07/22/2005 11:41:38 AM PDT by laceybrookesdad (A half truth is a whole lie!)
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To: laceybrookesdad
I'm just glad he retired as a Dolphin. It would have been too weird, and too hard, to see him another uniform...As you know, he's my favorite QB (and the hottest) of all time. LOL I also want to see him in the Hall of Fame with the big ol' 13 on his shirt...(weeping massively now at the memories of all his records, and how great his rear looked in those tight pants...)
55 posted on 07/22/2005 1:57:48 PM PDT by codyjacksmom (I've gone out to find myself... if I get back before I return, please keep me here!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

as a Bears fan - I wish to hell he'd made the Black & Gold move in '85....


56 posted on 07/22/2005 1:59:45 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Zack Nguyen

I bleed silver and blue. I used to hate seeing Detroit on the Dallas schedule. It just boggled my mind how Sanders could gain 4 yards and a first down just by being tackled.

Anybody remember the DB that got stuck in the carpet gaps at the old Vets stadium and destroyed his legs when Barry put that "shake" on him? I know that the collapse of his legs brought on by the turf was horrific but that still stands out in my mind as quintessential Sanders. That poor guy just melted when Sanders made his move.


57 posted on 07/22/2005 2:08:53 PM PDT by NerdDad (Lord guide me with one hand on my shoulder and the other over my mouth.)
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To: Zack Nguyen

Marino had a lot of talent, but he didn't have what it takes. Plenty of QBs have arm strength, etc., but that doesn't necessarily make them championship QBs.


58 posted on 07/22/2005 2:16:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Dan from Michigan
What's with Detriot and QBs anyways? They haven't had a good one since Bobby Layne have they? The list is long and full of Eric Hipples.

Never the tops, but always on my list of favorite teams. My faves were Barry, Billy Sims, and "Bubba" Baker.

59 posted on 07/22/2005 2:18:36 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: NerdDad
What irks me the most about the Lions is that they can beat the best teams in the league(outside Green Bay which always seems to have our number). Dallas, Atlanta last year, Buffalo, etc.

But we lose to the 2-14 teams. Tampa Bay (pre Dungy), etc.

60 posted on 07/22/2005 2:44:55 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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