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xinhuanet.com ^ | 2005-06-16 09:38:13 | Agencies

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:56:12 PM PDT by Destro

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1 posted on 06/15/2005 7:56:12 PM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro
I never cared for the Superman movies--boring. Spiderman was plain; Spiderman 2 was quite good. Both X-Men movies were kind of lifeless, and the gay subtext is just silly. I like the score CD to Batman Begins, though many won't because it's dark and doesn't have a heroic theme like the Elfman scores.

I don't know why, but no superhero movie has really hit me in the way the comics did when I was a kid. I think the speed of comics--you set the pace while reading them--is unable to be replicated in films.

3 posted on 06/15/2005 8:00:38 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: Destro
I study comic books for their historic value as a window into the time they were written. America was a scary place back in the past when it must have resembled Russia during the Yeltsin years. Corruption in high places, grimy city, crazy criminals, etc.

Every era of the comic book genre and the heroes that populate the tales therein tell us something about our nation during that time.

4 posted on 06/15/2005 8:00:44 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Looking forward to it...


5 posted on 06/15/2005 8:01:05 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Destro

Batman's always been the best superhero. Can't wait to see this movie.


6 posted on 06/15/2005 8:02:01 PM PDT by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
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To: Darkwolf377
Spiderman was plain

what do you mean by plain? I thought it was a very good movie.

7 posted on 06/15/2005 8:04:19 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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The first two Superman movies were good - I saw them as a child and found them very effective - especially Superman2.

I liked Spiderman and loved Spiderman2.

I agree the X-Men movies can be bland if you are not into them but they were not really that bad and pulled off the storyline better than one would think. The Hulk failed because the director missed what the Hulk was - it is Mr. Hyde meets the nuclear age. The modern Hulk movie should have been Mr. Hyde meets the DNA age.

8 posted on 06/15/2005 8:04:55 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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The Hulk failed because the director missed what the Hulk was - it is Mr. Hyde meets the nuclear age. The modern Hulk movie should have been Mr. Hyde meets the DNA age.

I was bored with The Hulk, possibly because they didn't use a real person.

9 posted on 06/15/2005 8:08:55 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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It could have been called Generic Superhero Plot. Granted this may have had something to do with it being one of the best-known stories in comics, but its was just PLAIN--hero gets bit, hero uses powers for self-gain, hero sees error of his ways. I was bored.

Spiderman 2, on the other hand, had life in it. It didn't have nearly the amount of action as most of these movies do, but I was hooked into the characters and the FX and action were gripping. The train sequence was terrific. The villain was far more interesting than the psycho in a mask from the first one.

10 posted on 06/15/2005 8:10:05 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Actually I liked the computer generated Hulk, the story was long and way too draw out.  It went into far more detail than it needed to for an 'action' movie.
11 posted on 06/15/2005 8:12:02 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Destro
My problem with the X-Men movies is that the stories are played too straight--there's none of the melodrama and juice of the comics. Also, if you notice, they don't work as a team--the fights are all one-on-one. The idea of a team comic is that the characters fight together. The first one didn't have a lot of excitement, while the second seemed disjointed. I like Brian Cox's acting but his Evil General was just too cliched.

Hulk went wrong, I think, because the director wasn't content to make a comic book movie out of a comic book, and tried to mix all kinds of pop psychology into it. I think he caught the Mr. Hyde angle perfectly well--I mean, it's pretty obvious--but his story was trying for some kind of Oedipal angle that was just dull.

12 posted on 06/15/2005 8:13:14 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: softwarecreator

I liked that I didn't realize that they pretty muched used The Absorbing Man as the bad guy up until the end.


13 posted on 06/15/2005 8:13:24 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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Anyone who has been able to sit through an entire BATMAN movie is in need of help

Anyone who posts into a thread he has no interest in probably needs help too, but who am I to judge?

14 posted on 06/15/2005 8:13:39 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Darkwolf377
Hulk went wrong, I think, because the director wasn't content to make a comic book movie out of a comic book, and tried to mix all kinds of pop psychology

That was my feeling too ... I looked forward to seeing it and was bored by the over-plotting and psycho-babble.

15 posted on 06/15/2005 8:16:05 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Darkwolf377
The villain was far more interesting than the psycho in a mask from the first one.

I thought the villain in Spiderman 2 was a little too outrageous, and I thought there was a lot of heart in Spiderman 1. (especially his relationship with his grandparents.)

16 posted on 06/15/2005 8:19:21 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Destro

Watched the new Batman movie. One word: WOW!


17 posted on 06/15/2005 9:50:02 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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Second that. WOW! and more.

Blown away.

This is THE Batman.

Forget the other movies. And that is from me, a great authority on the matter ;) A hardcore fan of The Batman comic. The other movies didnt even scratch the surface of the depth and darkness of this character. They were hollywood garbage.

Forget everything you know.

This is why I read comics.

See this movie.

There is a great deal of conservatism in it. Just like Spiderman. This is better.

I couldnt help but see some parallels with the war on terror. I cant put my finger on it exactly but there is something more here in this film that resonates powerfully.


18 posted on 06/15/2005 10:56:39 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Destro
I only saw the first two Batman's and it's been years seen I've seen them, but I liked them.

I'm a fan of Christopher Nolan's for directing "Memento" and "Insomnia". Both are good movies. So I might see this most recent Batman if I hear more good FReeper reviews on it.

"Insomnia" with Al Pacino and Robin Williams


19 posted on 06/16/2005 4:45:42 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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Batman is my favorite superhero because he's not an alien, he's not a mutant, he's just a guy on a mission.

I thought the Batman franchise was over and done with, but this one has breathed new life into it. Lots of fun, lots of action. Christian Bale is a terrific Batman.

20 posted on 06/16/2005 6:54:19 AM PDT by eastsider
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