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The Ephemeral Monumentalized
Art New England ^ | April 2005 | Donald Kuspit

Posted on 06/12/2005 4:21:54 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor

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I only just found this article, and thought I'd post it because one FReeper had some questions recently (on another thread) about Christo's Gates.

Some of this is a rather erudite article (especially in the middle), but I found the last paragraph very insightful. Kuspit mentions the spiritual and healing qualities of the Gates, especially in contrast to other controversial, and less successful, siteworks like Serra's Tilted Arc, also in NYC.

Plus it's been a slow day for art; time for a post.

1 posted on 06/12/2005 4:21:54 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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To: Sam Cree; Liz; Joe 6-pack; woofie; vannrox; giotto; iceskater; Conspiracy Guy; B Knotts; Dolphy; ...

Art ping.

Let Sam Cree and I know if you want on or off this list.


2 posted on 06/12/2005 4:32:21 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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Art Education ping.

Let me know if you want on or off this list.

I didn't write this, but I feel much the same way. Plus we'll do Christo and Smithson and others later on.

If you want to read what I wrote about Christo, check out this link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1348194/posts

My appologies to those for whom this is a repetition.

3 posted on 06/12/2005 4:36:38 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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Bah.

If they want a gate, let them put up a Japanese torii. Then at least it would be beautiful to look at and well made.

4 posted on 06/12/2005 4:58:35 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Republicanprofessor

They attracted a lot of attention, and everyone seemed to enjoy them


5 posted on 06/12/2005 5:58:53 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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Go here for more............ http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~noun/cristos-gates/
6 posted on 06/12/2005 6:03:00 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~noun/cristos-gates/


7 posted on 06/12/2005 6:03:22 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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Thanks for the pics. I just love them, and seeing the pictures warms my heart again.

I know many FReepers are skeptical. I just wish everyone could have walked through them. Minds might have been changed.

Did you visit them?

8 posted on 06/12/2005 6:05:04 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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No, I didn't


9 posted on 06/12/2005 6:10:12 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Republicanprofessor

Hi, professor, thanks much for this!

I must be obtuse, I note now that on you first "Christo Gates" thread, I made several posts, at least one of which was answered by you.

I generally agree with the elegant final paragraph in this essay, though I would qualify my agreement by saying that, IMO, interior decorating is a similar art, and similarly "spriritual." Same goes for commercial art.

Anyhow, I too saw the Gates, made a side trip on the way home from a visit with daugher in Syracuse, to Manhattan to see the Sorollas at the Hispanic Society, 155 St, and caught the Christos by mistake. Walked all the way across Central Park through them. Liked them, this is unavoidable, I think. True art. Good art.

Meanwhile, am somewhat tired after an overnight trip to Key Largo with wife dedicated to relaxing...will try to post tomorrow.


10 posted on 06/12/2005 7:04:15 PM PDT by Sam Cree (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy)
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To: nuconvert

Very nice photo. I thought those things gave an almost medieval flavor to Central Park, if that is at all possible.


11 posted on 06/12/2005 7:29:15 PM PDT by Sam Cree (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy)
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Check out the link. It's a slide show. Just wait and the pic will change every 10 sec


12 posted on 06/12/2005 7:31:47 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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That's excellent!


13 posted on 06/12/2005 7:52:54 PM PDT by Sam Cree (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Unfortunately, I did not get to experience the Gates...and that is what I find so profound about Christos. His art is so tangible. I took my boys to see the Umbrellas that were set up on the mountains north of LA a few years ago. I remember driving thru the exhibition seeing the yellow fabric looking like poppies in a field. It was breathtaking. We pulled off the freeway and walked up to one of the structures where we took many pictures and spoke with a docent who told us about the twin exhibition in Japan at the time only with blue fabric. I really liked the Umbrellas and wish they had been a permanent part of the drive to LA.


14 posted on 06/12/2005 10:31:35 PM PDT by kmiller1k (remain calm)
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Hey, no problem about being "dense." We didn't have as much of a connection back then as we do now. I'll have to review the responses to that old Christo post sometime today.

Glad you got to see the Gates and felt much the same way.

I have a friend who's a ceramicist, or potter, depending on how elite you are. She loves making "crafts" because then people can hold her "art" for each day, for drinking coffee and the like. If architecture can be spiritual, I guess the decoration of the interior can be as well. Sometimes I think interior decoration may be too materialistic, if you have to change your decor every few years to keep up with the Joneses. But if you hone your living environment (particularly with artworks on the walls) to reflect your inner self, then that's great. (But what do I know?)

15 posted on 06/13/2005 6:10:25 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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I think that's incredible that you saw the Umbrellas. I always thought it was a solid umbrella; he used fabric then too?! Can you tell me any more? Give me more details. I've always been least fascinated by that project, maybe because the umbrellas seemed big, heavy and cumbersome. But maybe I was all wrong. Enlighten me!


16 posted on 06/13/2005 6:12:26 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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"But if you hone your living environment (particularly with artworks on the walls) to reflect your inner self, then that's great. (But what do I know?)"

That's what I was trying to say - the first part of the above...the "what do you know" part is that clearly you know plenty.

IMO, though, furniture, carpets, and all the implements and utensils that are in our homes qualify as art too. We have an old Eames chair as well as an old Knoll, plus various and sundry midcentuy pieces that we accumulated over time, I understand a lot of that stuff is in the MOMA in New York. I'll probably try to go there (have never been) next time I'm in Manhattan. My SIL, who lives there, advises me that one can avoid the $18 admission fee by going Thursday night, when it's free.

Aalto vase

" have a friend who's a ceramicist, or potter, depending on how elite you are."

In figure drawing class the other day I referred to "composition" as layout. The instructor had the grace to find humor in that.

17 posted on 06/13/2005 10:23:02 AM PDT by Sam Cree (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy)
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Aalto did vases? I teach his architecture but have not seen many images of other things he designed. (It's hard enough finding images on line of his works. Perhaps because he's Finnish.)

Oh, yes, the Eames chair and old Knoll are DEFINITELY art! I'm impressed. (Most of what we have has been in the family....luckily, they had good taste to collect 50 years ago what are nice "antiques" today. So we have family history in the objects as well as "class." It's nice to see the same furniture in old pictures.)

18 posted on 06/13/2005 11:36:53 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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I also saw the umbrella intallations in CA. They were basically giant beach umbrellas, about 20' tall. They were the same golden saffron color as the seasonal poppies that blanket the same site in early spring.

I think I would have liked it better if it had been co-ordinated with the poppy bloom, instead of the sere fall. It seemed very sparse, perhaps overly ambitious against the natural features. I've liked other Christo stuff better.


19 posted on 06/13/2005 12:47:34 PM PDT by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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I didn't know that Aalto did buildings until today! The vases are not expensive and can be purchased in lots of places, including MOMA I imagine, they're still made today.

Here is some more midcentury art that you can't hang on a wall except in image form:

The E-8, intoduced 1949, and the E-6 from the 30's, by EMD. I understand that they are examples of Art Deco design. I have always loved them and thought them beautiful, in any case. When I was a child, the family rode on both trains pictured.

I saw one other Christo "installation," if that is the correct word? The draped islands in Miami some years ago. They didn't come off as well as the Gates, IMO, but they did cause tremendous excitement here.

20 posted on 06/13/2005 1:07:53 PM PDT by Sam Cree (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy)
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