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Picasso Exhibition Puzzles Chinese Art Lovers
Hindustan Times ^ | June 5, 2005

Posted on 06/07/2005 12:23:29 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 06/07/2005 12:23:29 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Picasso Exhibition Puzzles Chinese Art Lovers

'S'OK.

Chinese art baffles me.

2 posted on 06/07/2005 12:55:49 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Fierro-san)
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To: nickcarraway
I can't see why!
3 posted on 06/07/2005 5:03:34 AM PDT by pissant (will a Sleep Number bed prevent morning stiffness?)
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I have a feeling that the Chinese would have appreciated the Parade images (the top ones posted here) better than the Demoiselles D'Avignon anyway. The latter is a huge painting and I don't think it travels much from NYC's Museum of Modern Art.

But I think it's a great idea to expose the Chinese to western abstraction. Even Pollock's drip works were triumphed by the US after WWII as they travelled in Europe, promoting the freedom of American artists (vs. the strangulation of Russian art under Communism).

4 posted on 06/07/2005 5:51:49 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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To: Sam Cree; Liz; Joe 6-pack; woofie; vannrox; giotto; iceskater; Conspiracy Guy; B Knotts; Dolphy; ...

Art ping.

Let me know if you want on or off this list.


5 posted on 06/07/2005 6:29:30 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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To: Republicanprofessor
Here's some REAL artists:



William Bouguereau

Sir Lawrence Alma-Tadema

GODWARD

Jean-Leon Gerome

Pierre Auguste COT

Fabbio Fabbi




Eugene Giraud

Vincenzo Marinelli

William Clarke Wontner

Bernard Debat-Ponsan

Fernand Cormon

Check out their art. Go to the "Art Renewal Center" and use the search engine. These artists are true artists, not some media hyped child who kicked back 50% of his profits to the media of his day. No wonder Picasso became famous. More the media promoted him, the richer THEY got!!!!!This is the case of the emperor has NO clothes.

GO HERE


Also check out Cabanel's "Cleopatra testing poisons on Condemned Slaves"
Or....



6 posted on 06/07/2005 8:24:45 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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7 posted on 06/07/2005 8:30:05 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: pissant

I agree,
I feel Picasso is an aquired taste---
Like Sushi, dipping snuff and performance art ;)

OK, so I do like Guernica and his daughter's perfume, but that's about it. 'sides, he was really, really rotten to the women in his life.


8 posted on 06/07/2005 8:36:05 AM PDT by najida (Toilet, two sinks, now---the rest of the story (er, house).)
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Vanrox, Okay, okay. You like the academic artists of the 19th century. I used to be fascinated by Bougereau's Nymphs and Satyrs at the Clark Art Institute in Williamstown, MA. Interestingly, there are many parallels between this piece and that of Picasso above, because they are both dealing with pretty explicit sexual content.

You will probably like the work of Rosa Bonheur. It is interesting what happened to all academic art in the 1970s. Because the feminists were searching for women artists, when they lauded Rosa Bonheur, they gave credence (and more interest) to academic art (like that of Bougereau) that had previously been ignored. Prices soared for his works (and hers as well).

For my taste (and art is all about different tastes, isn't it?), I love Franz Marc's Blue Horses from 1913. Marc wanted to see harmony between man and nature; he was killed in WWI at Verdun. He seems to capture the essence of horses in their poses, heads down, almost whinying. Sometimes, I think, academic art gets very caught up with each muscle and little detail and, to me, loses some of the heart.

9 posted on 06/07/2005 10:36:51 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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I like his bullfighting series. That's about it
10 posted on 06/07/2005 10:57:12 AM PDT by pissant (will a Sleep Number bed prevent morning stiffness?)
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To: Republicanprofessor
I agree with what you are saying.

Here are some modern artists..I get choaked up when ever I view them...


11 posted on 06/07/2005 12:05:28 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: najida; pissant

I LOVE PICASSO!!!

Not a big fan of the Blue Period - but really enjoyed his sculpture and his love of the female form.

His sketches really show brilliance with a single line.


12 posted on 06/07/2005 3:00:05 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Magnums for everyone..........)
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To: Republicanprofessor
I like the academics too. Some of their subject matter was kind of silly, but, IMO, painting and draftsmanship reached kind of a pinnacle with those guys.

I also enjoy the realists, Dagnan-Bouveret and Eakins come to mind. Homer as well.

And especially Anders Zorn, Joaquin Sorolla and John Sargent.

Meanwhile, I was looking at a book of Velasquez paintings this morning - I was shocked - he might be my favorite painter for the time being.

Some things by Picasso I appreciate, but I have yet to learn to understand why he occupies the place in art that he does.

13 posted on 06/07/2005 3:05:21 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: vannrox

Now those are great paintings and works of art. Thanks for posting them!


14 posted on 06/07/2005 3:11:57 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Ooh. I like that Blue Horses painting. Very nice.


15 posted on 06/07/2005 3:13:31 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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I can't find an example of "The Drinkers" by Velasquez that allows me to hotlink. The one I attempted to link can be seen here:

http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/v/Velasquez/large/Los_Borrachos_The_Triumph_of_Bacchus.jpg

Yes, I agree that "Nymphs and Satyrs" is sexy. The Picasso might be also, except that it's more an idea than an image.

There is one thing about Bouguereau that really gets to me - as a father who raised a female to adulthood, and who has been lucky enough to have the wonderful father/daughter relationship that sometimes occurs, his "peasant girl" paintings truly speak to me. I've never seen an artist capture the young girl as he did.


16 posted on 06/07/2005 3:24:11 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree

That didn't work either, I give up.


17 posted on 06/07/2005 3:25:50 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
It is frustrating when images don't work for you. And to try to find one that isn't too big (or too little) and still has decent color and will post when you want it to....

My little girl is still little; maybe I'll like those Bouguereau works more as she grows up.

Velazquez is awesome, and he inspired Manet and the brushwork of many others. Velazquez seems so realistic, but up close it is again just a jumble of brushwork (like Homer, discussed in a previous thread). Let me try for a Velazquez image.

Notice the detail: the corsage, dress, etc. They are not nearly as detailed as you might expect. A few slashes of the brush make a corsage that appears detailed from a distance.

This work by Velazquez is called Las Meninas (Maids of Honor) done in the mid-17th century. The questions to ask are: what is he painting, who are the people in the mirror, and what's going on? It is a self-portrait of the artist, and it is huge (about life-size), shown in the Prado, which I am dying to visit.

18 posted on 06/07/2005 3:45:33 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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Ooh. I like that Blue Horses painting. Very nice.

Marc has some wonderful images, especially of animals. I'm so glad you liked that one. If you can ever get to the Guggenheim Museum in NYC, they have some of these by Marc.

First one is Marc's Yellow Cow, second one is Stables c. 1913, influenced by Cubism, but a colorful one at that. It's a shame he was killed in WWI; I would have loved his later work.

19 posted on 06/07/2005 3:52:49 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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I like that one too...now I am motivated to hit Prado too...thanks for the close ups. I knew that was the artist on the left, but hadn't realized it was life sized, which makes the painting upwards of 12 feet tall!

Do you have any links to those guys in the forge, or the drunkards?


20 posted on 06/07/2005 6:02:34 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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