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Apple to switch to Intel's PC chips~~ New chips will allow PC maker to lower prices
marketwatch ^ | June 6, 2005 1:44 PM ET | Jonathan Burton, MarketWatch

Posted on 06/06/2005 10:54:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 06/06/2005 10:54:58 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 06/06/2005 10:55:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

It looks like it is now official, folks.

3 posted on 06/06/2005 11:00:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It's official, their CEO just announced it, running the presentation off of an Intel PC.

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000137045772/


4 posted on 06/06/2005 11:01:29 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Does this mean IBM will be freed to sell its Power PC chips to clone manufacturers who will again be able to offer budget legacy Apple compatibles?


5 posted on 06/06/2005 11:02:02 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: ShadowAce
I wonder if Intel is going to do something about it's HOT....Pentium processors. Apparently Apple didn't like the Heat Output of the PowerPC for it's laptops....

I think there are some real mysteries in this move....things happening that are not yet apparent!

6 posted on 06/06/2005 11:05:31 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Not sure!


7 posted on 06/06/2005 11:07:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

IBM can sell the PPC chips to whoever they want, but it's doubtful Apple will allow the future licensing of their software to be compatible with them.


8 posted on 06/06/2005 11:07:59 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I wonder if Intel is going to do something about it's HOT....Pentium processors.

????

The pentium M, Intel's processor for portables is the far and away leader in low power/performance, and one of the primary reasons Apple is switching.

9 posted on 06/06/2005 11:09:47 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I guess Mac heads will have to stop touting the superiority of the PowerPC platform over x86...


10 posted on 06/06/2005 11:09:58 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wonder if Apple is going to dump the dual CPU computers now?


11 posted on 06/06/2005 11:10:20 AM PDT by SolitaryMan
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To: B Knotts

Jobs apparently just apologized to the Intel CEO on stage about it. He said no problem.


12 posted on 06/06/2005 11:10:54 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
This is a huge gamble as I see it.

It puts Apple in direct competition with Microsoft for the first time.

Either they will take a bite out of Microsoft (no pun intended), or they will quickly wither away.

13 posted on 06/06/2005 11:12:30 AM PDT by B Knotts
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Why would they? Intel manufactures dual-core CPUs. In addition, if Apple goes for the Pentium M or some variant, it won't be hard to make a dual-core version of that particular CPU. Intel's dual-core implementation is just the gluing of two CPUs together, anyway. It's not a true solution ala AMD's.


14 posted on 06/06/2005 11:12:51 AM PDT by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: B Knotts
This is a huge gamble as I see it. It puts Apple in direct competition with Microsoft for the first time.

Apple's first and foremost competition right now is Linux, which also has a *nix core and who recently passed them in number of shipping systems relegating Apple to third place for the first time. Apple was getting squeezed by IBM, who is pushing Linux everywhere instead while starving Apple for chips, which left them with little other choice.

15 posted on 06/06/2005 11:17:36 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
It's sad. The PPC970 is such an elegant chip with lots of room to grow. Too bad IBM couldn't produce up to expectations, having a hard time going to .90..

Intel offers not just increased performance, but reduced power consumption. Transition will be complete by WWDC ‘07.

But Intel? They're getting whomped by AMD in performance and heat. AMD has proven they can ship volume, having seen their marketshare go way up in the last several years. Honestly, can anyone say with a straight face that Intel has the best x86 architecture? I have a feeling Intel made a really sweet deal with Apple, maybe even including a loss-leader.

Satellite shot with crosshairs shows building where a team has been working on the “Just in Case…” scenario. Every release of Mac OS X has been compiled for Intel for the past 5 years. Here comes the demo!

This has been suspected for a long time, especially since Darwin (the core of OS X) has been available for x86 for years. I'm just amazed how easy they've made it for developers to port and make fat binaries. Ported Mathematica in two days? Damn!

But in the end, I wonder if this means I'll be able to simply replace Windows XP with OS X on my PC? Sweeeet!

16 posted on 06/06/2005 11:18:03 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Many developers reading this news may be thinking that they'll have to go through the same woes they had to in order to get their Mac OS 9 applications "Carbonized" to run on Mac OS X. Jobs assured the crowd that this isn't like that at all. To demonstrated, he brought on stage Theo Gray, co founder of Mathematica maker Wolfram Research.

Gray said that Mathematica is encumbered by "ancient code that hasn't been changed since the Reagan administration," but despite that, it only took about two hours to get Mathematica's Mac OS X code running on an Intel-bsaed Mac. "We're talking about twenty lines of source code out of millions, from a dead cold start. This is nothing like Carbonizing. It's prety good when the biggest problem from your port is to figure out what to do with the rest of your weekend."

Thank God. This is what I was most worried about. If it's this easy to convert, then Motorola/IBM/Freescale can go screw. If you can't get the job done, we'll go with someone who can.

17 posted on 06/06/2005 11:18:08 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (John Bolton for White House Press Secretary!)
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To: Golden Eagle

Don't you think this at least means the end of Microsoft Office for Mac OS?


18 posted on 06/06/2005 11:18:49 AM PDT by B Knotts
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But in the end, I wonder if this means I'll be able to simply replace Windows XP with OS X on my PC?

I wouldn't bet on it. Ask Be how well that plan tends to work ;)

19 posted on 06/06/2005 11:19:10 AM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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I guess Mac heads will have to stop touting the superiority of the PowerPC platform over x86...

That's now the job of MS Xbox and Playstation fans.

20 posted on 06/06/2005 11:19:40 AM PDT by GOP Jedi
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