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Are politicians turning us against the media?
Hotline's Wake Up Call ^ | 5-19-05 | Craig Crawford

Posted on 05/19/2005 7:44:40 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch

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Attack The Messenger, How Politicians Turn You Against The Media
1 posted on 05/19/2005 7:44:40 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: Nick Thimmesch

The media has almost no credibility these days. Of course, they've always been liars. But now people recognize it.


2 posted on 05/19/2005 7:46:38 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

It would do us well to consider other MSM myths and ask ourselves how long they've been getting away with it


3 posted on 05/19/2005 7:48:01 AM PDT by IncPen (There's nothing that a liberal can't improve using your money...)
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To: Nick Thimmesch; Mrs Zip; BOBWADE
These days, the truth is hard to find. If the press is not believed - or believable - because politicians have turned the public against it, then the press it not free and under the thumbs of politicians

Is this clown for real? "the press is not...believable - because politicians have turned the puble against it the public isn't as stupid as the left thinks. How about that correction?

4 posted on 05/19/2005 7:52:45 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: IncPen

What do expect the MSM to say?


5 posted on 05/19/2005 7:53:16 AM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Brilliant
Of course, they've always been liars.

And to think my Dad listening to Walter Cronkite saying "And that's the way it is" for all those years, still was a conservative. I give him that much more credit. May he rest in peace.

7 posted on 05/19/2005 7:53:42 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male)
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To: Brilliant

"The media has almost no credibility these days. Of course, they've always been liars. But now people recognize it."

Well, my late father was what you would call an old time reporter: started out at The Des Moines Register, went to Time Magazine in the 50's/60's and then became a columnist, so I'm very familiar with "the media". I don't believe my father nor his colleagues were "liars", but I do believe that as with any profession, they were human and made mistakes. But not deliberately.


8 posted on 05/19/2005 7:56:09 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: Nick Thimmesch

You can hardly deny they try to mold the "news" to suit their views, though.


9 posted on 05/19/2005 8:13:14 AM PDT by ctlpdad
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To: ctlpdad

Well, given that "the truth" tends to be selected "facts", it's almost impossible to not shape a story based on what the writer and their editors consider "the truth". But you have to start somewhere. I believe Crawford's saying in his Attack The Messenger book that politicians are accusing the media of selecting those facts based on bias, when sometimes they are simply reporting facts.


10 posted on 05/19/2005 8:18:07 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: Nick Thimmesch; Lazamataz; Southack; bert

Not ALL media and journalists are bad, deceptive, Marxist, pro-Islamist.

Bankrupt and starve those that ARE by boycotts, negative-publicity campaigns and antisubscription drives.

And support the good ones--and their sponsors/advertisers and tell them WHY. If you don't tell them WHY, you don't get the bang for your buck that you can.

We must influence future advertising buys much more so than we have to date.


11 posted on 05/19/2005 8:20:44 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger

All of this also depends on someone's definition of "the media": certainly a "reporter" is not the same as a "columnist" nor are they the same as a televison/talk radio producer, but somehow we tend to lump them all into one Big Media. These days, there seems to be very few actual "reporters" and plenty of opinionated columnists and producers who do have an agenda, one we can iether agree with or disagree with. So the book Attack The Messenger may mean both -- that is, both legitimate reporters and opinion makers are being mixed together by politicians who have their OWN agenda as well.

I don't know: check it out & tell me!

http://www.attackthemessenger.com/index.html


12 posted on 05/19/2005 8:28:46 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: Nick Thimmesch
I don't believe my father nor his colleagues were "liars"

Your father could have been an exception BUT wake up and smell the roses. MSM is predominately leftist, antiAmerican, democRatic apologists, voting 87 percent leftist (in the 90 percent range for electronic media types). Again, hopefully your father was an exception.

This is the same as academia, don't try to convince anyone with an iota of intelligence that the majority aren't anti American, anti military, anti moral values etc.

13 posted on 05/19/2005 8:40:21 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: Nick Thimmesch

Nixon - full bore media attack as they were disgusted he won.
Reagan - Full bore media attack as they were disgusted he won
GW Bush - Full bore foaming at the mouth, peeing in pants, projectile vomiting, dry retching, wild crazed look of an insane drugged wildman media attack as they were outraged, disgusted, depressed, sucidal that he won.

Media bias? What media bias?


14 posted on 05/19/2005 8:46:25 AM PDT by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: zip

By "MSM" I assume you mean Main Stream Media, but as I said, exactly who are the MSM? Would columnists George Will, Robert Novak and Cal Thomas be MSM (they have HUGE readership) or is C-SPAN (which I believe does a great job of being impartial) MSM? In Attack The Messenger, Crawford discusses these differences:

http://www.attackthemessenger.com/index.html

You can see for yourself and decide: I'm open to discussion onf this...


15 posted on 05/19/2005 8:50:36 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: Nick Thimmesch

http://www.mrc.org/


16 posted on 05/19/2005 8:54:41 AM PDT by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: listenhillary

http://www.mrc.org/

Ain't that Brent Bozo's site?


17 posted on 05/19/2005 9:03:22 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: Nick Thimmesch
MSM is predominately leftist, antiAmerican, democRatic apologists, voting 87 percent leftist (in the 90 percent range for electronic media types

Note my use of "PREDOMINATELY" which I stand by 100 percent. I can find a few good communists, atheists, democRats, academics, media types, etc but that doesn't make those groups acceptable to me. So when I say MSM is leftist, I mean the GREAT MAJORITY of them with a few exceptions here and there.

18 posted on 05/19/2005 1:21:52 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: listenhillary

Excellent post. Thanks


19 posted on 05/19/2005 1:23:56 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: Nick Thimmesch
Ain't that Brent Bozo's site?

OMG, a conservative's site. (Oh woe is me. Alas, alack. How can I go on?) Why are you on a conservative, pro America site? You would be better served by DU.

20 posted on 05/19/2005 1:28:45 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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