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Teen killer tells victims' family to save their souls by dropping lawsuit
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Posted on 05/08/2005 11:32:03 PM PDT by beaversmom

GUFFEY, Colo. (AP) - A teenager in prison for slitting his best friend's throat has told the victims' family to drop their lawsuit against him or risk losing their souls.

"You're in a perilous position spiritually," Isaac Grimes, 19, wrote to Charles Dutcher in a letter postmarked March 22. "I just don't want you to continue hurting yourself and shutting yourself out of the kingdom of heaven."

Dutcher filed a wrongful death lawsuit, scheduled to go to trial June 6, against Grimes and two former Palmer High School classmates who were convicted in the New Year's Day 2001 killings of Dutcher's son and parents.

Tony Dutcher, 15, and his grandparents, Carl and JoAnna Dutcher, were found slain at the grandparents' home, Dutcher's throat cut, and his grandparents shot with a high-powered rifle.

Grimes, who was sentenced to 50 years, wrote in his letter that Charles Dutcher should read Bible verses about forgiveness. Grimes said Dutcher is "talking the talk" of Christianity, but not "walking the walk."

Dutcher was enraged by the letter.

"It upsets me tremendously for him to try to preach at me and scold me," Dutcher said. "I'm not the one who killed three people. He killed my son and he set up my parents. None of this would have happened without Isaac."

Dutcher, who still lives on the property where his son and parents were killed, said Grimes' still doesn't understand the pain he caused.

"I'm sitting here in my dad's chair, looking at bullet holes in the wall," he said. "I'm the one who buried them up here. I'm the one who cleaned up the bloody crime scene. I walk the walk. I walk it everyday, and I sleep it every night."

In his letter to Dutcher, Grimes wrote: "I will value your forgiveness greatly should you choose to give it. If you don't, however, it won't bother me in terms of how I feel about me -- but it is painful to see you and your brothers harboring unforgiveness because of how much you hurt yourselves by doing so. (God has forgiven me, and if someone's opinion of me differs from His, whose should I value more?)"

"Let's start with the topic of the civil suit. Whether I 'win' or 'lose' is quite irrelevant to me. I have no assets and no income -- but rest assured that your attorney fees will be paid, quite likely by you in the event that you can't find someone with assets to sue."


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1 posted on 05/08/2005 11:32:03 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

I think the questioning by the plaintiffs' attorney during the civil trial could prove interesting. The defense attorney will have a very difficult time keeping his client from digging his hole even deeper.


2 posted on 05/08/2005 11:38:40 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: beaversmom

Young Isaac seems to have missed a few Sunday Schools. Before forgiveness is granted, first there must be repentance. His claim that God has already forgiven him is a bit boastful. None know for sure if you have been forgiven until you are standing before God.

God Himself laid out standards, if you will, for forgiveness. Even He doesn't forgive any and everything freely.

Isaac shows me he doesn't have a clue about forgiveness.


3 posted on 05/08/2005 11:54:25 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: Paleo Conservative
Why sue someone who has nothing?

The plaintiff, no matter how in the right, gets stuck with all the expenses...
4 posted on 05/09/2005 12:06:18 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: beaversmom

DAMN that's just evil.


5 posted on 05/09/2005 12:13:52 AM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: DB
I'm sure he has no assets...NOW.

In the future, however, any judgment would not simply vanish. Book deal? Movie deal? Early release, and a job? Jail house marriage to someone with assets? Future inheritance? All benefits from any of these would become nullified by such a judgment. Most of them are not too likely, but it is still an effective preemptive strike, and may not cost too much as suits go. Then, there IS simple satisfaction.

6 posted on 05/09/2005 12:34:26 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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"The murders took place at the beginning of this year, and the murderers were arrested during the past few months, as the police gathered evidence. Charged with murder now are Isaac Grimes, 16; Jonathan Matheny and Glen Urban, both 18; and Simon Sue, 19. Their trials are scheduled for later this year. Grimes, Matheny, and Urban are White. Simon Sue is a non-White immigrant from Guyana, in South America, primarily of Indian ancestry. He is the local gang leader of a paramilitary, anti-racist organization with roots in Guyana. He calls his organization Operation and Reconnaissance Agents, but it usually is identified in news reports from Colorado Springs only by its initials, OARA. Sue preached to the other teenagers about the evils of White racism, and he ordered them to commit several burglaries to steal guns and money to be used for fighting racism."

" One of their victims is 15-year-old Tony Dutcher, who was a schoolmate of theirs in Colorado Springs. On previous occasions, Tony had invited his classmate Isaac Grimes to the rural home of his grandparents. During one of these visits, Grimes had decided that the grandfather, 60-year-old Carl Dutcher, was a White racist, and he reported this back to Sue and the other members of OARA. Sue decided that Carl Dutcher should be killed because of his racial beliefs. During the New Year's school vacation at the beginning of this year, Grimes visited Tony at his grandparents' rural home. The two boys camped out in a lean-to behind the Dutcher home. During the night, Grimes crept up behind Tony with a knife and cut his throat as he lay in his sleeping bag. Police said that Tony's throat had been cut all the way to the spinal column, and he bled to death."

" Grimes then went into the Dutchers' house and awaited the arrival of another member of the anti-racist gang, Jonathan Matheny. When Matheny arrived, he shot Carl Dutcher with a rifle. Dutcher's wife, 58-year-old JoAnna, barricaded herself in a bathroom, but Matheny shot her through the bathroom door. Grimes finished them off by slitting their throats."

natvan.com

"Sue sentenced

Will serve 53 years for conspiring in Guffey murders"

csindy.com

"ACCUSED GUNMAN MATHENY GETS 68-YEAR PRISON SENTENCE IN GUFFEY TRIPLE MURDER."

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7 posted on 05/09/2005 12:42:56 AM PDT by Daaave (Use only as directed.)
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8 posted on 05/09/2005 1:02:53 AM PDT by kcvl
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Stories like this make me feel less bad about not having kids in this wonderful world we live in today...


9 posted on 05/09/2005 1:56:05 AM PDT by Gigantor (USA: Greatest, wealthiest, most generous, benevolent, & powerful nation in the history of mankind.)
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To: DB

I wonder if any of the perps' parents are named in the suit?


10 posted on 05/09/2005 2:00:41 AM PDT by elli1
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To: ApplegateRanch
I'm sure he has no assets...NOW. In the future, however, any judgment would not simply vanish. Book deal? Movie deal? Early release, and a job? Jail house marriage to someone with assets? Future inheritance? All benefits from any of these would become nullified by such a judgment. Most of them are not too likely, but it is still an effective preemptive strike, and may not cost too much as suits go. Then, there IS simple satisfaction.

Which means that if this person ever gets out of jail, he will have no motivation to do anything resembling lawful work or to re-integrate with society and every motivation for continuing on life of crime. This sort of symbolic satisfaction has very few benefits and whole lot of drawbacks for everyone involved...
11 posted on 05/09/2005 4:04:40 AM PDT by MirrorField (Just an opinion from atheist, minarchist and small-l libertarian.)
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