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Yankees Rout Red Sox in MLB Season Opener
AP ^ | Apr 4, 2005

Posted on 04/04/2005 10:13:03 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: Mr. Mojo; F16Fighter; NYCVirago

Hey, only 92 more wins to go!


121 posted on 05/05/2005 1:05:12 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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lol.....damn, I was hoping this thread would die a quiet death ;)

I concede (even though it's only early May).

You win.

All the "Yankees suck" comments of the past decade were merely expressions of intense envy, without any merit whatsoever.

Now, finally, they're true.

122 posted on 05/05/2005 1:09:11 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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LOL..actually the minute I read your post I bookmarked it for later in the season should the Yankees suffer another crushing defeat (I believe my post #7? says that). I think you are conceding a bit early. The reason I decided to post now was because I think the Yankees are about to snap out of it and I wanted to get in on the low point! Its a long season...heck the Sox did not play better than .500 ball until mid-July last year.


123 posted on 05/05/2005 4:14:03 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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Its a long season

Normally I'd agree with you, but a close look look at this Yankee team reveals enormous (and perhaps insurmountable) problems, starting with pitching. Kevin Brown is through, Mussina's 2-year trend of regularly giving up the long ball is getting much worse, the Big Unit is looking 41 (but can come up with a big performance on occasion), Jaret Wright is hurt (and has never proven himself to be a winner anyway), and Carl Pavano is looking okay.

The relief? What relief?

Can't win w/o great pitching.

They'll be fortunate to win 90.

124 posted on 05/05/2005 4:27:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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LOL..actually the minute I read your post I bookmarked it for later in the season should the Yankees suffer another crushing defeat (I believe my post #7? says that). I think you are conceding a bit early. The reason I decided to post now was because I think the Yankees are about to snap out of it and I wanted to get in on the low point! Its a long season...heck the Sox did not play better than .500 ball until mid-July last year.

Well, I think they've hit rock bottom now, reaching last place and losing three of four to the Devil Rays. IMHO, the quickest fix solution they could do to increase morale, both with the team and the fans, is to release Kevin Brown! Torre's still insisting on throwing him out to pitch on Sunday at the Stadium. I think that after he gives up the inevitable six runs, that the Yankees should cut him during the game, and have Bob Shepard announce it. I guarantee you it would get the biggest ovation of the year! ;)

More seriously, I think it's time for Torre to retire. He has obviously lost control of this team, really since last year's playoff debacle. I'm of the opinion that the optimum time for a manager to run a team is five years. Torre's on his tenth year now. He doesn't have the fire anymore, and he doesn't seem to be getting through to the team.

125 posted on 05/05/2005 7:02:50 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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That is almost unthinkable, because Torre is such a class act and a tremendous manager. Its not him, but they definately need a shakeup. Had not watched any Yankee games until last night and it was very noticable that they are just going through the motions. Looks to me like they need a guy like Larry Bowa to come in and knock some heads together.

Of course, being a Red Sox fan, I hope they stick with the status quo!

126 posted on 05/06/2005 3:23:29 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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That is almost unthinkable, because Torre is such a class act and a tremendous manager. Its not him, but they definately need a shakeup. Had not watched any Yankee games until last night and it was very noticable that they are just going through the motions. Looks to me like they need a guy like Larry Bowa to come in and knock some heads together. Of course, being a Red Sox fan, I hope they stick with the status quo!

We agree! Yeah, I would have laughed at the idea of Bowa a year ago. Now I'm not so sure it's such a bad idea. This team absolutely does need somebody to kick some butt -- unfortunately, that's not Torre's style.

I read something the other day about how Brown refused to give interviews, and Torre said he was unhappy about it, but there was nothing he could do (what, he couldn't tell him to talk to the press??) And Brown had also refused to do a rehab start when getting off the DL this year. You can't let a player dictate things to the manager like that, especially when that player is pitching as horrendously as Brown is. That's a sign to me that Torre has lost control of this team.

127 posted on 05/06/2005 9:36:01 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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