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To the Black Robed/Blue & Brown Uniform/Suit Clad SCUM out there... & HINO schiavo
Self | 03/31/05 | ChefKeith

Posted on 03/30/2005 11:57:26 PM PST by ChefKeith

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To: ChefKeith

Great rant! No flames are needed! I agree with you.


41 posted on 03/31/2005 1:16:45 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: flaglady47; GloriaJane
Gloriajane - "I just wish there were something constructive we could do."

Flaglady47 - "You could get a life."

Flaglady47 - You know I've been watching your ignorant and downright hurtful posts for the past couple of days and I would like to tell you what I really think of you but then I'd get banned. Use your miserable and limited imagination and I'm certain you can fill in the blanks.

Not anything good in having tripped over you on the threads. Not a thing.

42 posted on 03/31/2005 1:24:15 AM PST by drt1
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To: ChefKeith
No flame, just my thoughts. I too have kept my mouth shut for the most part on the subject. I've looked at it and looked at it and it is just so complex I've been unable to place myself completely in one camp or another.

On one side, I find myself asking what the ramifications would be if the government said you couldn't pull the plug on someone. I don't see how the law can differentiate between a terminally ill person and someone who is not. I can't fault the President or Florida's Governor for not rushing in with the cavalry and rescuing her. It's Florida's National Guard not the Governor's personal army to use without legal grounds. I don't know enough about the specifics of the legal proceedings to make any judgment on the decisions of Greer.

On the other side, I see that starving/dehydrating someone to death is cruel and unusual and it wouldn't be tolerated in any other part of our society. A prisoner is force fed if he goes on a hunger strike. TVS or not, what I've seen of Terri Schiavo leads me to believe that she is aware that she's thirsty.

Florida law defines a feeding tube as a means of life support. Perhaps that's where this whole tragedy went awry.

One question that I have that is probably too morbid to ask before her death is: if her husband was awarded a malpractice judgment based on the expected lifespan of Terri, and he chose to terminate that life before that lifespan was complete, is he liable to return a portion of that award?
43 posted on 03/31/2005 1:26:36 AM PST by ohCompGk
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To: drt1
I'll take that chance.

IMO without his scum-buddy judges/cops/sheriffs/lawyers he is a A BIG WEENIE that can't wipe his own a$$.
44 posted on 03/31/2005 1:32:01 AM PST by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 32 more races to go...)
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To: Sarajevo

Thank You, I just wish that I could do something to save Terri from these a$$holes.


45 posted on 03/31/2005 1:34:27 AM PST by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 32 more races to go...)
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To: ChefKeith
Agreed - HINO is a hollow hulk if there ever was one. While you are at it you might take along a midget to handle Felos (Don't want to make it too unfair!) and your pet chihuahua for Greer.
46 posted on 03/31/2005 1:35:51 AM PST by drt1
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To: agitator

Ya got that right!


47 posted on 03/31/2005 1:40:00 AM PST by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 32 more races to go...)
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To: agitator

Why doesn't that tell you something?


48 posted on 03/31/2005 1:42:30 AM PST by Randy Papadoo (Not going so good? Just kick somebody's a$$. You'll feel a lot better!)
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To: ohCompGk
I had the same question and I think it deserves an answer from MS. Below is what I posted:

Actually, I've had a little different take. In the malpractice suit MS and his hired experts testified in support of their request for damages that Terri had an expected life span of 51 years, their intention was to provide for her care for this time period and, therefore, funds to maintain Terri was required for this time period.

However, immediately after the malpractice suit was completed and the funds for her long term care were received, MS proceeded to attempt to end her life and actively reduce the actual time period of care.

It would seem to me that this inconsistency - MS's avowed intention to provide care as compared to his subsequent attempt to eliminate the need for such care - would be grounds for a demand of the unexpended portion of funds awarded for the care that was not required.

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49 posted on 03/31/2005 1:46:31 AM PST by drt1
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To: GloriaJane

You can ask them to look into anything, but in Florida they protect Judge Greer, and by extension Michael, Felos, etc. Unfortunately, the malpractice award was in Civil Court, not Criminal Court, and there is a difference. You could probably sue someone Civilly for lying in a Civil Court lawsuit if it damaged you. But I think criminal prosecutors don't file criminal charges on someone for lying in a Civil Court. Now a judge of that particular court might in some way sanction the person if he wanted...not sure about that. But he probably doesn't care, if he is on Greer's side of this.


50 posted on 03/31/2005 1:47:11 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: drt1

Heck I can go get a few minnows from the bait shop next door that could kick felos/greers a$$es (even out of water)


51 posted on 03/31/2005 1:48:58 AM PST by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 32 more races to go...)
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To: drt1

Like minds? :) I never saw it.


52 posted on 03/31/2005 1:51:10 AM PST by ohCompGk
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To: Squantos

Shameless BTTT


53 posted on 03/31/2005 2:01:37 AM PST by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 32 more races to go...)
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To: ohCompGk
It even goes further than that and I'm mystified as to why it wasn't brought up in the matter of Terri's wishes regarding her possible incapacitation. It goes like this:

If he testified that he intended to provide for her care for the next 51 years then he is precluded from asserting that it was ever her intention to end her life by unnatural means. i.e., To his knowledge he had every expectation of discharging this obligation and needed funds to enable him to do so. It certainly would have been inconvenient for him to assert what he later claimed were her wishes to be disconnected since to do so would likely have reduced the amount of any potential award.

If his attorney didn't hammer this home then he needs to be disbarred. If the Judge was told this and ignored it, he needs hanging!

54 posted on 03/31/2005 2:03:54 AM PST by drt1
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BTW this invite is directed at the 11th circus and the "supreme" idiots as well.
55 posted on 03/31/2005 2:16:29 AM PST by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 32 more races to go...)
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To: drt1

"your ignorant and downright hurtful posts for the past couple of days"

Nothing could possibly match the hurtful and ignorant posts that are on these Schiavo threads day after day after day: calling the judge and the husband murderers, Freepers saying they would like to kill the judge, the husband, the husband's lawyer, totally slandering Terri's husband without even knowing him. Trashing Jeb Bush, George Bush, Tom DeLay, Bill Frist, all the district court judges, the U.S. Supreme Court, wanting Greer impeached, condoning vigilantism by urging the Governor to storm the hospice, death threats against the Florida legislature, the judge, Michael Schiavo, the District Court Judge. Bomb threats, email bounty hunting offers of money to murder the judge and the husband, arrests at the hospice, need I go on?

And the constant whining on these threads, constantly. Anything I might say pales by comparison with what has been happening on these threads and at the hospice itself. So pardon me if I point out the hypocrisy of many of the posters on these threads. So many posters don't mind at all dishing it out towards so many of their "enemies", but can't take it when someone dishes it back. Well, this will all be over very soon, and then I hope this website goes back to some resemblence of normalcy. That will be a good day indeed.


56 posted on 03/31/2005 2:22:23 AM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: flaglady47

I stand by my previous post to you. Your posts are tasteless, inflammatory, insulting and strongly indicative of one who, herself, should 'Get a life'


57 posted on 03/31/2005 2:26:56 AM PST by drt1
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To: drt1
Your mind ticks a little faster than mine. He certainly should have been precluded from arguing her desire to die after arguing his intent to care for her. The question is can the judge consider evidence from another case? I'm not a lawyer.
58 posted on 03/31/2005 2:28:22 AM PST by ohCompGk
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To: ChefKeith

I have one challenge: Judge Greer, I dare you to spend five minutes alone in the same room with Terri Schiavo with a Colt 45 in her hand. Let's see if she has no will to live.


59 posted on 03/31/2005 2:31:58 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: Brad's Gramma

"Then....someone YOU, flaglady, or someone I know....will be next."

We'll all be next, as everyone of us will die one day. Just make sure you have a living will, or a family that all think on the same wavelength about what to do if you end up in a similar situation as Terri Schiavo. Otherwise, you too, might have the pleasure of laying in a bed for the next 15 years, just laying there, and laying there, and laying there, year after year, until your body finally gives up the ghost. How delightful for your relatives to have to see to your upkeep for all those years (or would your shell of an existence be paid for by the taxpayers, via Medicaid?) Otherwise, you could always have your children run through any possible inheritance you may have set up for them, by keeping you hooked up to some artificial means of life.

Maybe it's you who should do some serious thinking, as it could happen to anyone of us; and your family, if it's you, may not like your idea of what the results should be. Hopefully, it won't happen to you, but now the Pope is on a feeding tube, and it's unknown what will happen with him, bless his soul. I'll bet he didn't expect this to be happening either. But, being a very smart man, I'm sure he has left exact instructions as to what to do in such a situation. I suggest you do the same if you haven't already.


60 posted on 03/31/2005 2:37:06 AM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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