NEEDED: A MOVIE ABOUT TERRI (SCHINDLER) SCHIAVO

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[markml]

I think a better idea would be to get a good investigative journalist and pair him up with a filmmaker to create a documentary. We need people to do a "Michael Moore" type production, except use integrity and carefully present facts from this case so that people can know the TRUTH.

Terri's right to life is being denied based upon LIES. Unfortunately, those who have made the lies may have covered their tracks so well, that our "law" will never expose them for what they are. But at the very least, we can expose the underlying agendas of people like Felos and all the ironies involved here. Make people realize that a real miscarriage of justice has taken place, and then maybe they will start to realize how, as a society, we let it happen!

The bottom line, I think, is that if the case of Terri Schindler had been presented to a jury rather than a judge, she would be being fed right now. There is a reason why in America, we have trial by jury for serious capital offenses rather than trial by judge. ONE MAN should not have the right to decide the fate of someone's life. Juries have more moral clarity in interpreting evidence and the law since they look beyond their understanding of precedent and semantics, and instead look at each case afresh, unbiased by the mindsets produced from law schools and Ivy League education.

In fact, only a judge/lawyer would appreciate the semantical difference between "deciding whether someone should live or die" and "deciding whether someone intended to live or die to decide whether someone should live or die". Judges are not allowed in this society to kill me because they think I'm guilty. They are HOWEVER, allowed to kill me because they think I want to die.

The semantical difference breaks down when you realize that in both cases, a judge is making a subjective determination that effects whether someone will live or die. Judges should NEVER be allowed to make those decisions by themselves...the fact that this case had been in court so many times is mute when you consider that every decision had been made by a judge.

Suppose on the otherhand that you had a lone judge deciding whether someone should be put to death for committing a murder. It would not matter if the case was appealed a hundred times without success! I think the majority of this society would consider justice to be unserved because the process used is wrong. People need to see that the same situation is occurring here!!!

Otherwise, why do we have juries and the notion of "without a doubt" in the first place?

[Yosemitest]

And to all;

You have a lot of good logic here. To all ... please post your ideas of scenes and post pictures that could be used or links to evidents to support this case.

I like your idea of a jury, but I think from the Bible and based on the Great Throne era Revelation 20:11-15 I think the jury would have to be the twenty and four elders.

Witnesses must testify by the old testament standard of Deuteronomy 17:1-7.

Please... anyone can add to this thread ideas on how to do this. But let's stay with The King James Version (Authorized) of thew Bible.

I think a good way to open would be a scene showing Terri's grave and a voice whispering "How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" .

But I really do want them to end with the righteous walking over the ashes of the destroyed guilty.

[Yosemitest]

I can't produce the movie. I can only recommend the idea and hop and pray someone with the know-how puts these suggestions to work. Thanks and keep up the great work.

yose

[nmh]

I don't think we should be exploiting the Bible in this way.

What has happened to Terri is a tragedy but this is over the top. We need to settle down and examine more closely the legal rights of the disabled and see that this can never happen again. When there is an question, let us err on the side of life as Bush stated, legally. We don't want anarchy.

[Yosemitest]

This will not be an exploitation of the Bible, but a clear example of how the Bible explains to us God's ways to discern a matter.

[Yosemitest]

This isn't over the top. But it clearly defines vile person and how God will deal with them.

And Jesus should be shown as the strong carpenter that he was, when he cast the wicked into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone as stated in Revelations 20:10 amd 21:8.

Then when the lava cools the righteous can walk across the ashes of the wicked.

[nmh]

Bible literate people already know how God will deal with vile people. Those that wish to know can buy a Bible and read about it. Some libraries also have Bible you can check out. I just don't think we need to exploit this tragedy further in any way shape or form.

There are "end times" movies available too. What we should do is make changes to out laws so that this can never happen again. IMO, there was too much doubt about what Terri wanted and her husband was shall we say, less than honorable. Let's leave Terri alone now. I pray she passes quickly since she is at the point of no return.

[nmh]

Bible literate people already know how God will deal with vile people. Those that wish to know can buy a Bible and read about it. Some libraries also have Bible you can check out. I just don't think we need to exploit this tragedy further in any way shape or form.

There are "end times" movies available too. What we should do is make changes to our laws so that this can never happen again. IMO, there was too much doubt about what Terri wanted and her husband was shall we say, less than honorable. Let's leave Terri alone now. I pray she passes quickly since she is at the point of no return. there is no need for a vindictive movie like this. God is in control and will judge accordingly. Even evil angels tremble at the mention of His name - so do evil people inside.

[Yosemitest]

"We don't want anarchy."

I agree! But anarchy is what these activist judges have given us.

But we've been warned way back in Joshua 24:11-16, where we were told:

15 Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.

[Yosemitest]

You may wish to leave Terri alone...to die. But we're not bothering Terri. We're choosing life.

I agree with "What we should do is make changes to our laws so that this can never happen again" and we can do both at the same time. We need to strike while the iron is hot (see Revelations 2:24-29).

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It is slightly reminiscent of "Million Dollar Baby."

My Brady Bunch Book

[nmh]

No, those advocating Jeb Bush step in and stop this ILLEGALLY would create anarchy. I am not an advocate of anarchy as you appear to be. Jeb does not have the LEGAL power to do this. He did all he could, LEGALLY to stop this as did George Bush and Congress. This is unprecedneted!

I am also very dissappointed at how unappreciateive the Shindlers are with all these acts over and above the line of duty. The Shindler rhetoric is shameful towards Bush and those that tried to help them. If anyone royally screwed up it was the Shindler's attorney. This has been in the courts for years. Earlier on the Shindlers acknowldged that she was in a "vegetative state". This was all the judges and others saw and the Shindlers agreed with this, earlier on. Perhaps it was an oversight but that was in some of the legal documents posted on FR.

We are a country of law and order and I suggest you accept this. It's over. I don't agree with the outcome and if I was Judge Greer I would have ruled to insert the tube but I am not in a position to influence him.

A more positive approach would be to make sure there are laws in place that NEVER allow this to happen again when a persons wishes are questionable. We should always err on the side of life, especially when their is a conflict of interest as with Michael.

I leave you with this:

James 2:19

[19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

[Yosemitest]

I've not seen that movie, but understand it to be pro-euthinaisa. What I propose is anti-euthinasia, and definately anti-government-enforced-assisted-murder by a husband.

I can't help but wonder how many of these activist judges have taken a bribe and turned against justice.

[Netizen]

Robert Blake should play Michael Schiavo.

[nmh]

Oh stop this! Terri is PAST THE POINT OF RETURN. That's a FACT. She is not dying "alone". She has her parents with her and her siblings. You can stop the dramatics. I'm not moved.

You need to move on and do something positive about this - such as making sure who ever is a representative of you, makes it a priority that the disabled are protected and when there is doubt we err on the side of life.

It's actually people like you that I find scary - advocating anarchy. Perhaps a good nights sleep will make a difference for you and you will think rationally.

Good night.

[Yosemitest]

" Jeb does not have the LEGAL power to do this. He did all he could, LEGALLY to stop this as did George Bush and Congress. This is unprecedneted! "

WRONG!!!

I refer you to the following:

Joseph Farah's WorldNetDaily Radioactive with Alan Keyes - March 24, 2005
"In the Florida constitution, the right to enjoy and defend life is an explicitly recognized right, in Article I, Section II, I believe it is, of the Florida state constitution. So, it is not even something that is implied. It is clearly stated. And the governor has a clear and explicit obligation to protect it if he conscientiously believes that it is being destroyed--and he says that he does, in the Terri Schiavo case. He has even declared that new information has come forward making it even clearer."

Also see:

Alan Keyes on Scarborough Country
The minute the judiciary is involved in something, the government is involved. It's a branch of government.

And in this particular case, it's a branch of government that, in the form of Judge Greer, and now all the other courts, is disregarding a basic right of Terri Schiavo--the right to life that is actually explicitly guaranteed in the Florida Constitution. Article I, Section 2, says that every natural person shall have inalienable rights, among them "the right to enjoy and defend life."

And right now, Jeb Bush is in the spotlight. He is the one who actually has the obligation, by his oath, to support, protect, and defend the Constitution of Florida, and he has to move to protect the integrity of Terri Schaivo's constitutional rights.

Both of these were found at http://www.terrisfight.net/ and that was found through Once You Get Past the Ethics, The Rest is Easy

I urge you to reconsider your position. All of these links are worth your time to read and analyze.

[Yosemitest]

Not once in this thread have you seen me advocate anarchy. It is those who choose to do nothing that advocate anarchy. And anarchy is bnrought to us by activist judges. Or can you not read the U.S. Constitution?

[Yosemitest]

Now that I think about it, these statements by Alan Keys would make great testimony in the trial in this movie.

[Wallace T.]

You're probably right. I also believe that such a movie will be produced in spite of advertisers being likely not to sponsor it due to the threat of boycotts. It will probably be released in theaters or to HBO. It may well be a money loser or at best a marginally profitable movie. Look at the picture, "Million Dollar Baby," which is pro-euthanasia. Despite winning numerous Academy Awards and a marketing campaign that tried to sell it as a female version of "Rocky", it still struggles at the box office.

Promoting the pro-death agenda outweighs the bottom line for Hollywood.

[Yosemitest]

Okay, I've given some thought to the four and twenty elders on the jury.

I request input on this.

But after some research,
I believe them to be the sons of Israel (Jacob)

Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph or in his place Ephraim, and Manasseh. Joseph may have other duties.

Now for the other twelve, I think they will be the twelve disciples. "the names of the twelve apostles are these;

The first, Simon, who is called Peter(Cephas), and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas (Didymus), and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.

But I believe that Saul will take Judas Iscariot's place as the twelfth disciple.
OR... could it be Judas, the brother of James? I believe it will be Saul.

This brings the jury to twenty and four.