Posted on 03/24/2005 8:56:42 PM PST by Grassontop
Sure, we still have differences, but it seems almost like God is reminding us what is most precious to Him.
....what a horrible, horrible death Michael Schavio is putting this woman through...I hope Michael Schavio burns in eternal hell....
"Throw it back in their lying faces every time they come out for one of their "causes" and why we should all give more to the useless UN. I intend to. Those children are not starving, they are experiencing euphoria. Why interfere with that?"
BTTT and amen. And we can continue doing end-runs around the UN to demonstrate our true Conservative compassion. This is true religion.....caring for widows and orphans.
I seriously believe that if it is true that Michael asked of a nurse that if "the bitch is dead yet", then that should be same as him wanting to murder her! God help him and all who is involved with murdering an innocent woman! Also him going to medical school on the money he was awarded over the malpractice suit sure would explain why the nurse claimed he was trying to put Terri in insulin shock because he was trying to hurry her death! This husband is no husband, he is a monster like O.J.Simpson and Robert Blake! God have mercy on their souls!
I sure know what you mean about feeling ill! My stomach hurts, my head aches, but most of all it pains my heart tremendously to see this kind of injustice being done to Terri as well as her family who loves her.
And the most powerful man in the world, President George Bush can't he give her a stay of her execution. This is a nightmare, but Christians for years have been talking that a day like this might come to America!
Did you hear the tape of Terri speaking to her
parents when the tube was taken out?
I heard it several times, on Drudge's radio show
and a local radio show today.
As much as I wish the parents could care for her,
Terri's voice and struggling moaning reminded of those
night-terrors we sometimes have. ...
The ones where you desperately try to wake up and try to yell for someone to help you, but you can't speak, can't move, can't open your eyes!
I just had chills listening to Terri on that tape.
May God treat her soul with dignity and love.
I didn't hear that tape nor knew there was one available. You mean to tell me Michael let them tape her??
Hi, here's a link to a topic about the tape.
I pinged you there, too.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1371100/posts?page=102,3
Day twelve without food and water and still going! All of a sudden I'm beginning to think that maybe God has a better plan than all the psycho babbling that is being talked about this slow murderous death!
Yes, but 12 days is a long, long time.
I just don't see how she could recover
from this torture, even if they gave her water right now.
It freaks me out, that Terri is denied water
through her mouth! The feeding-tube is supposedly
used because she can't take anything through the mouth,
right?
Denying water and food through her mouth is beyond
just removing the tube. This is really an act
of torture and murder, with the intent of KILLING
Terri.
Hey! Maybe we should put feeding-tubes in everyone on
Death Row, and then yank the tube out and watch
the inmates die!
It's so peaceful, you know.
FWIW hERE'S qUIX'S TAKE ON THE CODES AND THIS CODE:
CODES IN GENERAL:
1) There are incredibly long [30 characters and up] codes which are extremely beyond chance as solid scientifically published papers have demonstrated. The naysayers have been caught in dishonorable practices and assertions. A number of internationally renowned professional statistics and code breaking scholars have forsaken atheism/agnosticism/nominal belief for a vibrant belief because of their setting out to disprove the codes and finding them mored solidly real and supernaturally generated than they ever imagined anything could be. Those saying otherwise are not being honest with themselves and the data.
2) There--to my mind--are some 'intermediate' sorts of codes--not really long enough to be absolutely statistically proven as authentic--yet--they have factors about them which seem to make a chance source a ridiculous idea. That is. There may be a relatively short initial code--say 15-25 CHARACTER or so long code.
2.1) The words are short enough to not be statistically overwhelmingly improbable by chance. However, perhaps there is a connection between the keywords in the code and the key words of the surface text. And/or there may be as many as a dozen ore more ADDITIONAL shortish codes found within the matrix around the initial code WHICH ALL CLEARLY HAVE KEY WORD MEANINGS IN SUPPORT OF, RELATING TO, ADDING MEANINGFULLY TO THE INITIAL CODE. No one has come up with a fool-proof way to statistically calculate such things regarding the probablity of their occurring by chance or not--at least not to my knowledge. Yet, when taken as a whole--it seems quite logically impossible for THE WHOLE SET-UP to have occurred by chance.
2.2) Then there's 'cutesy' phenomena such as THE CROSSES. There's a ton of crosses found wherein two Hebrew words form a cross. The words aver very short--3 or 5 letters long. The chance of finding such short words by chance is very high.
2.3) However, the presence of the crosses, as I recall, is greatly higher where there is discussion of THE CROSS in the surface text. And in some cases, the crosses are piled on top of one another in a 3D, perhaps holographic sort of way--really rather remarkable. Sometimes theere almost seems to be an artistic punch and point to the way the crosses are aranged in a matrix. . I think only a fool would deny that God had something to do with the placement of such crosses in HIS TEXT BY HIS SPIRIT.
2.4) However, I have yet to read of a reliable way to test such phenomena statistically regarding chance vs non chance origins.
3) Clearly most popularized so called codes by the likes of Drosnin and others not very schooled in statistics are not significantly more likely to occur for any reason other than chance. A lot of nonsense has been built up on such pseudo-codes and brought a lot of understandable derision on the whole infant field. Such short codes can be found easily in any lengthy Hebrew text.
3.1) There are lots of folks who insist that even the longer codes can be found in any long Hebrew text. There's been a very solidly constructed comparison between The Bible and War and Peace in Hebrew. There was NO CONTEST. The differences between the longest--far longer--codes found in The Bible vs War and Peace were statistically significant on a NUMBER of counts/factors.
3.2) biblecodedigest.com is the best site I know of. But it has links to other quality researchers as well as to a naysayer or two.
I just looked at the Terri code more closely.
It may be that the statistics are better than I assumed at first scan.
One in 2,223,975 chance of it occurring by chance is pretty good evidence that it is not due to chance.
I agree.
At this point--let her go. I"ve prayed--millions are praying.
God has every excuse to make a miracle example of her if He wishes.
It is beginning to appear that He is using her as a martyr to HIGHLIGHT AND EXCORIATE our excesses, idiocies and compulsions to race toward death in our country.
I'm skeptical that many will get His point. But her reward will be greater for her suffering. And we are promised that the glories of eternity with God are such that the worst sufferings of this life are not worthy to compare with those glories.
I believe that.
The problem is that you may want to read through some of the many so called codes that are posted on that site. Some of them are just plain wacky in that they seem to indicate that God is a liberal...and often without morals as well. After reading some of those then I come away with the feeling that these people are managing to find whatever they want to find...regardless of what we know to be true about God. Those who print these "code" findings appear to be religioius, but not Christian. That causes me great doubt in the "Bible Code".
I personally think Drosnin could easily be a disinformation tool of the . . . opposition.
There is often not a lot of clue as to
WHO'S VOICE
the code is in.
Clearly some are in the voice of satan and his crew as are some Scriptures.
Which site? IF THE BIBLECODEDIGEST.COM site--I have a lot of respect for it. I don't know anything about the site the Terri code was posted on. I'd consider it suspect as there mostly seemed to be laymen fascinated with the topic posting their own codes. But, sometimes laymen find interesting codes, too.
All the basic doctrines of the faith are there in the codes--including that Jesus came in the flesh--THE CHRIST GIVEN CRITERIA FOR WHETHER SOMETHING IS OF THE SPIRIT OR NOT--etc.
I'm personally still waiting for God to kick the whole phenomenon into high gear. I think the surface has barely been scrateched. And, understandably for at least a couple of reasons--most codes are as cryptic as many Biblical prophecies.
I think the digest people do a great job with a limited staff and budget. The whole field is still very young. A lot of earlier codes would not now be considered authentic, statistically.
The people at the site have a lot of integrity and have always related to me straight-forwardly. More than I can say for a lot of pastors.
Terri finally died and saying good-by was hard for me as well as many of you! That lawyer Felos should go through the many days of starvation as did Terri and tell the world if it is as peaceful as he claims it to be! What a shyster he is to whom ever will listen. I'm mad as hell that this torturous murder had to take place here in the U.S.A.!
By the way, I don't know who made my post with this opus as well as the vanity before my title, I want whoever did to know that this matter of life and death is not vanity to me! I take life very seriously and may God forgive you and I forgive you for whomevers ignorance it was to compel you to do this for me!!!
Whatever.
i was just wondering how that is even possible, and if you are positive that this fact is true; that an officer was stationed at terri's bedside to ensure that no water or food was given.
i am just trying to get my facts straight. i agree with everything you have said.
but another question i have is the reasoning behind it. isn't it true that terri would need more water than the hospital could even give her to "revive" her?
and at what point was she swalling properly and well enough to even have water as an option?
i really just want some more facts that i haven't been aware of. so if you could help me out, that'd be much appreciated.
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