Posted on 03/15/2005 7:25:16 AM PST by DocH
Right you are.
I mean our white Liberals, for an example, would never dream of aiding and abetting the terrorists and dictators. They would never give a prominent address right before an election and urge support to the terrorists (kennedy). Ignore the "Human Shields" that traveled to Iraq. They would never urge we cut and run, nor encourage death tolls of our troops to rise in hopes they'd turn public sentiment.
Nope, the only enemeies of this country are people of a darker brown toned skin that believe in Islam. This belief would require us to also ignore the the statements of respect, praise and love addressed to this country from people newly freed in Afganistan, Iraq and apparently in the crowds of Lebanon. We'll forget they exist but it doesn't service the belief all Islam believing Arabs need to be eradicated from the face of the earth.
In sincerity, there are some Arabs that are anti-American. Properly more than there should be in this country. There are other Arabs scared to death their families will suffer if they speak out against the practices of these extremists. It's a legitimate fear. There have been a few brave souls that have done so, they are not given the coverage they be. Our MSM doesn't wish to report them and too many in conservative media seem to ignore their existance as well.
During the 70s and 80s, and probably into the 90s, as well, there were instances of communist/socialist/marxist/leninist/whateverist guerilla and terrorist groups, made up of white left-wingers, operating around the world, training with and operating with Islamic terrorists. But, you'd never know it based on this thread...
"Yeah, it was odd to see the muslim gunstore owners. I wonder if there are any in the US?"
If there were, I betif you made friends with them, they could show you the "special" items they have in the back room.
Bones
I know. When you are on the top rung of the ladder, everyone wants to pull you off!
The point is, I have not heard any of them openly and publicly decry Islamic terrorism...
AND, the fact that '24' just HAD to FORCE it onto their show, as Glenn Beck described it, as a PC PSA (Public Service Announcement). It was a disjointed, unrealistic, and falsified attempt to show us Americans that not all Arabs are bad.
It was kind of like a left-wing Viet Nam movie, like "Apocalypse Now". Sure there were SOME soldiers and Marines that comitted atrocities, smoked dope, etc. during the TEN YEAR war, but by unaturally STUFFING a 2 or 3 hour movie with ALL of the negative things done in TEN YEARS, uninformed movie goers got an untruthful, vastly distorted picture of the Viet Nam war and those Americans that served in it. And all of this deception and distortion to apparently promote some anti-Military, anti-defense industry agenda by the left-wing Hollywierd "elites".
It's the same with shows like '24'. SURE, we know that there must be some Patriotic Arab/Muslim Americans, but to FORCE it down our throats as a given by the writers shows that they have a PC agenda, and that trumps all else, with reality thrown to the curb.
ESPECIALLY, when the opposite of my Viet Nam analogy is the case... that over a LONG period of time, there have been MANY cases of international terrorism, and MOST, if not ALL, terrorists have been MUSLIM terrorists. I believe the Hollywood crowd responsible for '24' already had a PC agenda sympathetic to Muslim terrorists (the have-nots of the Arab world merely striking out against the haves, blah, blah, blah... misunderstood and downtrodden, yada yada yada...), so it was natural that they would cave to the vocal Arab minority.
Didn't they ALREADY 'cave' to the whining, bleating Muslim minority groups that complained (CAIR, etc.) by having Sutherland do a PSA of his own before/during one of the shows this season?
It is REALITY-based action/drama, like Clancy has made a fortune portraying, which makes a show like '24' watching. They will lose A LOT of viewers if they keep this PC crap up.
Didn't say they weren't there, just that I haven't heard from them in any public way.
I DO agree in general that the show has been p-whipped by CAIR et al, but not as bad as Glenn has suggested.
To think that professionals in a top-level anti-terrorist unit would be so involved in PERSONAL issues and relationships (love, marriage, whacko daughter, blah blah blah), especially DURING a national terror crisis, is patently ludicrous.
As I said, I doubt I'll be watching much more this season, and never again after that.
Agreed.
The simple truth is that socialist appeasing Liberals have provided the greatest alliance to these movements against freedom, and they are pre-dominantly comprised of white men and women.
Am I going to suddenly level racist dialogue at those that have the same white skin tone as I do? No, because skin color isn't the problem. Nor is Islam necessarily the problem, and I am not an apologist for Islam. I do not believe it is a religion of peace in its proper form BUT I do know that not all Muslims interupt it literally. A liberalized doctrine of Islam is compatiable with democracy, and that is what we are trying to encourage.
Our fight isn't with Islam or a race color, but with an ideology that has crossed all bariers since the start of the earth. The need to oppress, terrorize, mutilate, hold power over and dominate the world completely with the rule of fear. It's taken many shapes that cross religion, cross skin tone, cross governmental boundaries. The only way you defeat it ultimately is by comfronting it with a more powerful force. Personal Liberty, Freedom, Love, an open properous society that breaks down the barriers of jealousy and propoganda, a government of the people, by the people for the people.
Stop! You're killing me!
>>Yeah, it was odd to see the muslim gunstore owners. I wonder if there are any in the US?<<
of course there are. . .you just won't ever be allowed to know where they are.
As someone said, to paraphrase, "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but VIRTUALLY all, terrorists have been Muslim".
Sorry you think my post is "idiotic" there Chad.
Some agree with me, some agree with you.
By injecting traitorous Americans and American-loving muslims into their false thesis of Not All Terrorist Are muslims, the show loses all credibility and now looks like Scottie Ritter was the producer!
"disjointed" - I agree. The gun shop did not have to be owned by Arab-Americans. It did seem forced. I hope this is the last of it.
"unrealistic" - maybe. I would guess that ANY gun shop owner of any nationality would have done the same. OTOH, I would guess that there are very few Arab-American gun shop owners. There is a lot of pseudo-realism in this show (an override device? an EMP bomb?). I'm willing to suspend reality a little.
"falsified" - I disagree.
Sorry, I misspoke when I said it was a "falsified" attempt, since it is true, that not all Arabs are bad (just the great number that are bent on killing all of us infidels).
I watched it for the first time this season..because trhe promos..which ran incessantly..were riveting..and the first episodes were great..but now, I'm disappointed..way too PC..BTW..most honest terrorist depiction..the Brit series.."MI-5"..shown here on A&E..just finished the current season..it'll be rerun..well worth watching..it pulls NO punches..accurately shows them as blood-thirsty fanatical Islamofascists..
Which, if anyone were to actually look at the last 30-40 years of terrorist history, they would realize that statement is also idiotic. I can name half-a-dozen terrorist groups off the top of my head that are made up of purely whites...
But hey, if you wanna conttinue basing your world view on some paraphrase, feel free. I, however, prefer to deal in facts.
Us former USAF guys are full of humor!
Baeder-Meinhoff, IRA, PIRA, Shining Path, ETA, JRA, Red Brigades, Tamil Tigers, N17, PKK, FARC, AUC, etc...
None of those are Islamic Terrorist groups. I'm absolutely certain there are more than I can name off the top of my head. A simple Google search would probably yield even more results of non-islamic terrorist groups...
Whomever said "... virtually all terrorists are muslims" is a dumbass.
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