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THE AMAZING RACE VII --TAR7-- Official Show Thread & photo preview
CBS ^ | Feb 24, 2005 | Veto! with a little help from CBS.com

Posted on 02/24/2005 8:35:27 AM PST by Veto!

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To: EmilyGeiger

At the beginning of the show, Rob discovered that the first bus to leave would not be the first bus to arrive. He whispered that news to Ron, also to a couple of other guys, but everyone caught on and all climbed on the faster bus. Rob then collected a few bucks from Ron, Ray, and Uchenna, (The Testosterone Brotherhood), who were all sitting at the front of the bus at Rob's direction. He bribed the bus driver to open the front door when they arrived but keep the back door closed, thus putting Ron in the first group to scramble for taxis. It worked well and this group maintained that small but effective lead for the rest of the show, finishing 1,2,3,4..

I had the sense that it was not just the 40-second lead but the psychological boost those guys got from banding together. Rob, who works in construction, understands these Manly Man things and uses them to his advantage. Could be one of the other MMs will rise up to out-alpha him, but we'll see.


181 posted on 03/09/2005 10:31:03 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions Freely Dispensed as Advice)
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To: dead
(“But we’re very old and we can’t count anymore!”)

I have to concede the point, dead. They were PIA's at IKEA. Still they seemed a classier couple than Meredith and Gretch. No AARP team will ever win TAR, but they attract older viewers and build up the show's ratings, which I'm all for. More ratings mean more TARs. Next season, they're going after kids on a family TAR, so there probably will be no one over 40 to grouse about.

182 posted on 03/09/2005 10:35:57 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions Freely Dispensed as Advice)
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To: Veto!
Still they seemed a classier couple than Meredith and Gretch.

Alright, I’ll give them that.

No AARP team will ever win TAR

Sooner or later, you have to run fast up a big hill or be eliminated.

The addition of kids in the 8-18 range is going to raise the annoying factor exponentially, which is just fine by me. I love hating people on television, especially when I get to watch them get eliminated.

183 posted on 03/09/2005 10:43:24 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Veto!

They had the betting story over at Survivor Sucks. Also what has come to be known as the "Jamaica Spoiler" on who the final three teams are. I invite anyone who wants spoilers to visit there, although be warned, many of them are a bunch of blue state $h**heels who disparage Ron, George Bush and the American Military. I tune out those threads when they turn political.

Thought Romber ran a flawless leg. However, sorry, never liked them. But he was the only one that did the books in one trip because he knew how to pack and distribute the load.


184 posted on 03/09/2005 11:12:20 AM PST by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
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To: Right Cal Gal
Thanks, but I have no interest in spoilers. And besides, they are inaccurate more often than not, planted by evil no-nothing gremlins who want to cause trouble.

Besides, I really never care who wins. It's the racing that intrigues. And the travelogue. It is fun to pick favorite contestants and those who suck most, but I cannot get too worked up over the outcome.
185 posted on 03/09/2005 11:24:56 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions Freely Dispensed as Advice)
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To: Right Cal Gal

I thought the betting story was telling but I don't put too much weight on spoilers. I went on Amazing Race Sucks website last season that swore inside info on the remaining teams being Hayden/Aaron, Lori/Bolo and Adam/Rebecca. They had Freddy & Kendra (winners) in fourth place.


186 posted on 03/09/2005 11:46:06 AM PST by Republican Red (DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
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To: Veto!
Veto, Republican Red --

How right you both are! It is in some ways telling that TAR has never had spoilers that were accurate, frankly. (Red - I go to the Sucks site quite a bit, I must sheepishly admit) Survivor and Apprentice both have had their outcomes leaked (and were amazingly accurate, at least as to the "final two") but TAR? Nope. Even when you consider the fact that the race finish takes place out in the open (Survivor and Apprentice are "live" at the time of announcement of the winner), I have never read a single spoiler that gave away the ending.

Okay, so are we settling into who are favorite team is? My choice is the brothers -- that shoe shine thing last night just...oh my my, and I'm old enough to be their....very older sister. Am in "agreeance" with those that say the old couple is grating -- they're sure no Don and Margareeta from Season 1. Now that I've professed my love for the brother team - please stay tuned for their elimination next week.
187 posted on 03/09/2005 12:13:42 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
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To: dead

Agreed. They always seem to get older couples that can't meet the vigorous physical demands. Now, you know there are older couples that do marathons and iron man competitions. I want one of those couples!


188 posted on 03/09/2005 12:32:01 PM PST by WHATNEXT? (That's PRESIDENT BUSH (not Mr.)!!)
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To: Right Cal Gal; Republican Red

If I were to bet actual money on this race, I'd go around the Net saying that my brother's cousin knows a producer at TAR and can say for sure that the XYZ team wins. If properly placed, this rumor could increase the odds against my real favorite, thus upping my earnings. Too easy for some jerk to do, so I never bet.

The brothers? Gee, RCG, they are awfully cute but I don't think they have the requisite heart/torque to win. But may your fave eye candy stay around for awhile for your aesthetic pleasure.


189 posted on 03/09/2005 12:41:32 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions Freely Dispensed as Advice)
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To: EmilyGeiger

He paid a bus station person to not tell other teams that the express bus leaving AFTER the bus that everybody was getting on actually arrived 30 minutes before the early bus. He then let Ron and Uchenna in on the "secret" but the other teams found out about it a little later.

He paid the bus driver to only open the front doors of the bus when they got to the destination before opening the back doors. This gave the "front of the bus sitters" about a 2 minute lead getting off the bus.

Rob is ruthless and he is playing the game exactly as I would. Look for an advantageand the hell with the other teams. Play your game, don't follow the others.

There were other "plays" but I forget what they were.


190 posted on 03/09/2005 1:41:00 PM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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To: hattend
I have never seen Survivor so I watch TAR without any preconceived notions of Rob and Amber.

I think Rob is playing the game great. The "sneaky" things he has done is how you win. I must admit I didn't care for him using others money for bribes but, he got away with it and had his needed money in his pocket.

I keep reading how Rob is not smart. I think just the opposite. Last nights episode showed him saying he wanted to do the schlepping of the books because the shopping would require money that they were low on. Turns out the mom/gay son, who a short time before ran out of money for the vinicular chose to shop. Why were they so surprised when they again didn't have enough money? Most of the other teams that did shopping also ran out of money.

Still pulling for my local boy Ron but I think Rob and Amber are the best team.
191 posted on 03/09/2005 1:51:05 PM PST by Republican Red (DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
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To: Veto!

I did not like Rob in the first Survivor. He seemed like a slacker/whiner on that show. On All-stars, he did great. I personally would have voted for him over Amber.

The first show, I thought he really didn't do much, but this show he did. He did great with stacking the books, so they could make one trip. I thought he was smart to tell the security guard not to talk to the other teams, and I loved it when he bribed the bus driver not to open the door in the back of the bus.

He also seems to have done some homework, and is doing great at speaking Spanish. I think every TAR has gone to at least one Spanish speaking country, so it seems like that would be a good language to brush up on if you are going on TAR.

Rob is also not a wimp. He'll do the challenges, like a man. All the gay guys were so awful looking on the zip line last episode, and Rob looked like a real guy. Also, Rob is very nice to Amber and she is very nice to him. That says a lot for the two of them.


192 posted on 03/09/2005 2:01:51 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Republican Red

No doubt about it. I do have, to my discredit, some previous knowledge of Rob, but you are absolutely right - he was definitely smart to check around and see what else was available. The bus thing and not opening the doors - well, that I'm not so fond of, but it can come back to bite him in the butt later on with the other teams - you never know. On another board, someone was indignant about the fact that he "pocketed" the other teams money. And as I pointed out to them, well, no, he didn't - he just didn't use HIS money.

Rob's smart - he may not be the most articulate racer there ever was, and he may have a touch of arrogance to him, but he runs a hell of a race and he tries to think ahead - he doesn't really rush into situations - as you pointed out, he takes a little extra time to weigh the options. You don't see a lot of racers do that -- they just rush rush rush to the nearest option, find the other one was more feasible and lose lots and lots of time. I think it was Season 2 when a team tried one detour, screwed it up, went to the other detour, couldn't do that, and then went back to the first detour, completed that, and were Phil-iminated that night. I'm like "yeah, that was a brilliant strategy."

I have to ask -- are you a "red" Republican because of state or hair color? Hee! And Veto - thanks for starting this thread. It's the only Amazing Race thread for discussion that it's full of Anti-Bush, Anti-Iraq ^&*^%$!!

Survivor has sucked the last couple of seasons - you haven't missed a thing!


193 posted on 03/09/2005 2:05:44 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
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To: luckystarmom

Agree - Rob should have won All-Stars. Anyone that could make the other tribe vote off one of their own instead of an outsider is the King of all out-players. But I really, really, disliked him in Marquesas.
And my post above? Should have said it's the only site that ISN'T Anti-Bush, yada yada yada


194 posted on 03/09/2005 2:09:53 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
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To: luckystarmom
I did not like Rob in the first Survivor. He seemed like a slacker/whiner on that show. On All-stars, he did great. I personally would have voted for him over Amber.

Agreeance with every word. Rob could never had achieved the mind-control of his entire tribe during All-Stars if he hadn't kicked butt during the physical challenges. Rob learned from his first Survivor, and Amber learned from hers. The folks they beat out on All Stars had learned nothing, and played the same loser game.

If some of the teams on AR don't start paying attention to their own games instead of focusing on Rob's game, they'll never catch up. I keep telling my kids that the Amazing Race lesson is don't worry about who is in front of you, just keep your eyes on what you're doing.

195 posted on 03/09/2005 2:10:14 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: Right Cal Gal

Red = hair color. But I am in Georgia so I'm Red in that column too.


196 posted on 03/09/2005 2:15:22 PM PST by Republican Red (DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
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To: luckystarmom; Veto!; dead
He also seems to have done some homework, and is doing great at speaking Spanish. I think every TAR has gone to at least one Spanish speaking country, so it seems like that would be a good language to brush up on if you are going on TAR.

Other than on TAR4 and TAR6, all of the other seasons had their first several legs in Latin American countries. Yes, speaking Spanish is a good initial advantage; however, it is quickly negated as the race travels eastward.

It looks more and more that the most important TAR skill is akin to being able to cycle in the Tour de France pelaton: being able to keep without much effort, try to get the other teams "pull" you along around the world, and only put the effort into not being last each leg to conserve money and energy for the final push.

197 posted on 03/09/2005 2:30:00 PM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Republican Red

Lucky....I'm from Carolina originally. My two favorite cities in the U.S. are Charleston and Savannah - can't beat that Georgia coastal accent.


198 posted on 03/09/2005 2:58:44 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
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To: Veto!

All I can say is WOW! I know we're not supposed to mention the other show he was on but...that's very similar to how he manipulated his way to the top. Encircled himself with 3-4, 3 men and the other Amber, and kept them on the inside of his group and had them working for him and would throw them a bone every now and then to build up loyalty. He was ruthless. This is going to be very interesting to watch.


199 posted on 03/09/2005 4:13:25 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: Veto!

Yes they are having auditions for the show in Birmingham, AL. I would love to go watch to see how they choose the teams.


200 posted on 03/09/2005 4:15:02 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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