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No Oscar battle for 'Passion' partisans; activists will be watching Hollywood (Christians on alert)
cnn.com ^ | 1/27/05 | Thom Patterson

Posted on 02/09/2005 4:44:26 PM PST by Liz

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To: Liz

Have you ever checked out PAX?


21 posted on 02/09/2005 9:23:01 PM PST by This Just In (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.)
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To: This Just In

Yes, I have. On my system, it comes on intermittently. I also get Worship TV.


22 posted on 02/09/2005 10:07:21 PM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz

I'm not familiar with Worship TV.


23 posted on 02/09/2005 10:08:49 PM PST by This Just In (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.)
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To: This Just In

It's more of a contemplative viewing with no dialogue, all sacred music, written Biblical quotes, and majestic scenery.


24 posted on 02/09/2005 10:12:44 PM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz

Ah yes, I've seen that channel and enjoyed what I saw.


25 posted on 02/09/2005 11:14:56 PM PST by This Just In (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.)
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To: Liz
There's FoxNews, the History and Discovery Channels, AMC and EWTN....but that's about it.

..... and The Food Network ;-D

26 posted on 02/10/2005 12:48:52 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: Liz; NYer
I spent the weekend watch the most of nominated films, thanks to DVDs and a great second run movie house.

Look, I love "TPOTC" but I'm afraid I have to agree with the fact that it is not one of the best movies of the year.

Granted, it has the greatest subject matter. Granted, it has some great--truly inspired--production values. Overall, however, it is not one of the top five films of the year. But should the Oscars go to movies with the greatest subject matter, ignoring everything else? If so then hundreds of movies have lost out. But many such films have won best picture, including these with religious themes: Ben Hur in 1959, A Man for All Seasons in 1965.

And again, The Academy Awards are industry awards, given by the people who make films for the people who make films, just like Free Republic gives out its Eagle Awards given by Freepers to Freepers. Outside groups should expect to have no more influence over the Oscars than anything else, and they need to get over it.

And frankly, Mel Gibson needs to get over it, or start fighting his own battles. But Mel wants everything his way or else. He makes the film on his own, sets his own time table, then refuses to do anything to garner nominations, exactly what he did for Braveheart, which did win Best Picture. He wants his Oscar nomination, but his way, just like he wants to be a practicing Catholic, but his way. If Mel had wanted the nominations, he could have gotten it by doing what every other film maker does--campaign in the trades. Michael Moore refused to do it, and lost all nominations, although best documentary was probably his for the taking.

Finally, the film industry would have gotten hammered regardless of what happened this year. If films such as "Passion of the Christ", had received nominations, then the Left would be pounding the Academy for pandering to President Bush and the Religious Right.

27 posted on 02/10/2005 2:52:17 AM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: NYer

Yummy TV....LOL.


28 posted on 02/10/2005 5:16:06 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Military family member

You cogently underscored the obvious---Hollyweird has a biased, leftist political agenda--and they will punish anyone who dares to utter a discouraging word---or make a film---that contravenes Follywood's iron-handed dicta.

BTW, apparently The Passion was the only film to be booed and hissed when screened for Academy members. Doesn't sound very professional---or objective---to me.


Bravo to Mel for doing it his way.


29 posted on 02/10/2005 5:24:49 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: This Just In
To give Hollyweird even the slightest glance or credibility would be like throwing pearls to swine.

Amen.

30 posted on 02/10/2005 5:35:09 AM PST by MSSC6644
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To: Liz

Strange but I did not know that Union Theological Seminary had Nuns?

###"Sister Mary C. Boys of the Union Theological Seminary"###


32 posted on 02/10/2005 7:17:27 AM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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To: Liz

"Sister Mary C. Boys, Sisters of the Holy Names and professor of practical theology at Union Theological Seminary"

What does she teach? If it feels good do it theology? I think it used to be called "Situation Ethics"

I did a Google search and it seems her only claim to fame was panning the movie.


33 posted on 02/10/2005 7:30:53 AM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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She sounds very confused on all fronts.....including her gender.


34 posted on 02/10/2005 7:31:24 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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BTW, this post to militarymember was meant for you as well: You cogently underscored the obvious---Hollyweird has a biased, leftist political agenda--and they will punish anyone who dares to utter a discouraging word---or make a film---that contravenes Follywood's iron-handed dicta. ....apparently The Passion was the only film to be booed and hissed when screened for Academy members. Doesn't sound very professional---or objective---to me. Bravo to Mel for doing it his way.


35 posted on 02/10/2005 7:35:59 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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What's the buzz about "Sr Boys" that franky dug up?

"Sister Mary C. Boys, Sisters of the Holy Names and professor of practical theology at Union Theological Seminary" What does she teach? If it feels good do it theology? I think it used to be called "Situation Ethics" I did a Google search and it seems her only claim to fame was panning the movie.


36 posted on 02/10/2005 7:37:45 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz

O'Neil needs up his Aids Dementia Drugs or reduce them. Obviously, he is totally demented with that arrogant statement.


37 posted on 02/10/2005 7:45:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Military family member
I must disagree w/your comparison between the Academy Awards and Free Republic. The motion picture industry claims that it produces films for ALL audiences, whether these films are based on facts, or fiction. The Academy claims they are open to all points of view, and is not bias. What could be further from the truth.

Free Republic, on the other hand, is a news forum. It's audience is mainly conservative, and Free Republic even states this on it's home page, "Free Republic is the premiere online gathering place for independent grass-roots conservatism....."

It's like comparing apples to oranges with regard to the criteria for which awards are given.

WRT Mr. Gibson "getting over it...", I don't recall him shedding crocodile tears over not making the Academy cut. He's been in the business/game for a number of yrs. and knows how things work, I would venture to guess. I would imagine that he understands how the machine works, and what makes it tick, being part of that machine himself. I am grateful that despite the herd mentally in Hollywood, he stepped out of that mindset and took a chance, and was greatly rewarded for his efforts.
38 posted on 02/10/2005 7:54:02 AM PST by This Just In (In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.)
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To: Liz

The Oscars are a Joke the films and the Actors are today's Lollipop Trend. The Majority of Americans have chosen through film and politics what we are looking for as a Moral People. I hope the Oscars will have the lowest ratings as IMO it's only the MTV Generation who will be tuning in...

I wonder if the Passion of Christ will be shown during Lent in the Movie Theatres?


39 posted on 02/10/2005 7:55:17 AM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: This Just In
The analogy between the two holds. Both sets of awards are given by the members themselves. Outside groups have little if no influence on who is going to get either nominated or the actual winners.

The Academy awards are by the industry, for the industry; therefore, the Academy determines the rules.

I don't every remember seeing or reading anything claiming that the Academy had a policy that stated it "produced films for ALL audiences, whether these films are based on facts, or fiction."

The academy does not produce films; studios and others with money produce films. The Academy promotes the science and craft of making films.

40 posted on 02/10/2005 12:18:55 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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