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India May Be First To Tell The World About ET Contact
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/01-06a-05.asp ^ | 1/6/05

Posted on 01/06/2005 10:50:20 PM PST by Lori675

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To: Michael Barnes

I think those refs are around the net. I don't recall where. Have seen them in books and on the net and don't keep track of such stuff.

I'd check first at the DISCLOSURE PROJECT site.

Or, talk to airline pilots. Some know and some seem not to or pretend not to.


121 posted on 01/07/2005 7:49:39 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Well my screen needed a cleaning anyway :)


122 posted on 01/07/2005 8:00:59 AM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - it's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Quix
"Get the DVD prepared for our congress critters by Dr Stephen Greer's"

....and how much does he CHARGE for this enlightenment of humanity?

123 posted on 01/07/2005 8:03:02 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I forget.

It's a nonprofit org ran more or less on a shoestring.

He's an MD. If he was interested in money--he'd go back to that. He's suffered a lot for taking this on.

I think it was in the neighborhood of $10-15 or some such.

But I think any donation will get you access to a lot of the online print docs. Buying any of the media, books etc. will also make you a member with access to the docs, as I recall.

Some docs are available to anyone.

And, I've posted a lot hereon over the years.


124 posted on 01/07/2005 8:12:46 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
An eye on the advancement of technology throughout history, especially the last five hindered years, shows man using science and business to better himself, others and civilization. With increased understanding of nature comes increased control of nature. People today, despite increased longevity still die. Unless terrorist win man via science/business will cure human death. Youth-rejuvenating/non-aging biologic immortality will be the norm. Much as it is in for extraterrestrial conscious beings who cured conscious death so long ago they couldn't comprehend human/conscious-being death.

Control over people has been mostly the realm of politics and religion, not science and businesses. Throughout history political and religious leaders have convinced followers to kill over a hundred million people. Men and women using science and business have not killed even one-thousandth as many in the same time frame. For man to survive terrorist must be defeated to rise up a business/science civilization. A civilization where people live forever. Not an anti-civilization where everybody dies.

Conscious-beings, be they Earthlings or extraterrestrial create new technologies to benefit themselves. We are already using space to our advantage. Satellites and understandings of the Moon and Mars. SOHO, midway between the Sun and Earth is constantly sending information about solar wind to receivers on Earth.

Earthlings will figure out how to escape the Sun burning out long before it does. Extraterrestrial conscious beings with billion year advanced technology have likely learned how to keep the Universe from imploding on itself. Perhaps creating universes is routine for them. 

The third macro component of existence -- matter and energy the first two -- is consciousness/conscious-beings. Man-Gods and Woman-Gods populate the Universe. Earthlings are the anomaly seemingly trapped in an political/religious anti-civilization.

Earthlings see themselves as but a dot compared to the Universe. Extraterrestrial's see the Universe as but a dot compared to themselves -- their control of nature.

125 posted on 01/07/2005 8:14:35 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Quix

keep me on


126 posted on 01/07/2005 9:02:35 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: Quix
Being a professional photographer, I find it incredible that with all this time devoted to this UFO obsession no one had taken a single clean photo of anything related to this phenomenon. The only clean photos you get are those doctored fake ones in the supermarket tabloids.

One thing for sure, this obsession is a money maker. It has also caused some to take a walk down to the Santa Monica Pier.
127 posted on 01/07/2005 9:05:46 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: Quix
Here's a page linked to from Greere's site. The true mark of an Art Bell guest who is ummmm shall we say... Uninformative is that they predict the end of the world, sometimes they get away with predicting it multiple times. This sucks in all the Christian Fundamentalists who want to believe that the rapture's happening next month.

SURVIVAL: The asteroid 4179 Toutatis will very likely HIT THE EARTH, probably in the North Atlantic, in September 2004. THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS THIS, AND THEY HAVE DEVICES WHICH COULD DEFLECT THE ASTEROID'S PATH, BUT, due to "security reasons" and other "reasons", THEY WILL NOT USE THEIR EXISTING ANTIGRAVITY TECHNOLOGY TO SAVE US. They are too afraid of a public panic to release any information on the asteroid. They apparently only have plans to save the government elite (scientists, etc.). It is up to us, the citizens, to develop and deploy our own solutions, and soon! [This asteroid impact may not ultimately happen, depending on several random factors, but please don't make me say "I Told You So".]

128 posted on 01/07/2005 9:19:02 AM PST by Odyssey-x
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To: Quix

"No.

But I suspect it's not worth trying to explain to you"

Well, I'm not sure what it is that you think is not worth explaining to me, especially since my comments were entirely satirical, but constantly thirsting for knowledge as I am, I wish you'd go ahead and give it a shot anyway!


129 posted on 01/07/2005 9:59:15 AM PST by shibumi (Sum Ergo Flatulo)
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To: Zon

I easily realize that

science and technology

are

some sort of

paragon everything to you.

They are not, to me.

Science and technology without solid foundational values rooted in an altogether Good Infinite

are the deadliest things going.

Satre, at least, realized that without a meaningful connection with an Infinite, the finite was meaningless. It was sad he never found that connection. At least he realized the foundational issue.

Counterfeit RELIGIOSITY IS almost as deadly as science and technology without the Love of God.

An authentic RELATIONSHIP with God Almighty is entirely different.

But I realize you're quite convinced of your constructions on reality, as am I. I doubt our earnest words or pontifications will have much influence on one another.


130 posted on 01/07/2005 10:08:30 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: rwfromkansas

Had already deleted. Just put you back on.

Thanks.


131 posted on 01/07/2005 10:10:36 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: jonrick46

A well known FREEPER has seen a wealth of clear photos of the mass sighting in Mexico last year. We are seeing if there are ways to get some copies and post them but I'm not overly hopeful.

I think Greer has not just clear still photos but clear videos and/or clear film in his files at the DISCLOSURE PROJECT. I suspect their release is contingent on Congressional Immunity. Given that so many Senators are puppet masters' stoolies--as witnessed in the Impeachment process and the last election, I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

However, if you have been watching the History channel or jus paying attention at all the last decade, the quality of photos published widely has improved somewhat. I'd expect that to continue.

It's not, BTW, for lack of photos being taken--though some of the technology supposedly renders many types of craft fuzzy to cameras and to eyes because of light bending or some such. It is what has happened to the photos afterwards that has been such a problem. Funny movies don't render the MIB nonexistent, BTW.

BTW, my relative who worked around UFO's routinely was a professional photographer. He wasn't allowed to photograph them. His tasks related to another project entirely which just happened to be near the craft . . . in some contexts.

I hope it's comforting for you to construe it as a nonsense phenomenon.


132 posted on 01/07/2005 10:17:38 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Odyssey-x

Yeah. There are links to all kinds of stuff on all kinds of sites.

I wouldn't know whether this was another classic case of disinformation or some feeble educated guesses gone awry. I don't know that it matters.

Helped you with your construction on reality, anyway. And probably many millions of other people. But not everyone.

Sleep well while you can.


133 posted on 01/07/2005 10:19:29 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: shibumi

I don't doubt that that is your wish.

. . . wish away upon a star . . .

But I wouldn't hold my breath, if I were you.


134 posted on 01/07/2005 10:20:20 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Zon

BTW,

I don't, for a minute, think that your philosophy of life re science and technology

have even largely to do with a careful, reasoned, long-term evaluation of the evidence and a careful calculated settling upon what therefrom is the best match of the evidence for you.

I'm reasonably confident it has 90%+ to do with the fact that you are hostile to doing and not doing what an Almighty God has asked of you.

And probably, that doesn't have as much to do with evidence as it does with events and relationships the first 25 years of your life.


135 posted on 01/07/2005 10:23:39 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
CHECK OUT THE DOCS and especially the testimony on the DVD's available through the DISCLOSURE PROJECT site

I wish more people would do this. It might open some closed minds.

136 posted on 01/07/2005 10:45:35 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

I don't know that it would do anything for the closed minds.

But for the fair-minded who dig deep enough, there's some interesting stuff. For some reason, I really like the DVD. Maybe it's my psych stuff and thousands of hours interviewing people face to face. I don't know. I just don't see how anyone with any experience with people like that could see all those testimonies on the DVD from such experienced and well trained people and pass it off as absolutely nothing.

Thanks for your comment. I do mostly agree. I just don't think some people are fair-minded enough to have facts change their minds unless and until an ET leads them to a death camp guarded by ET's under a constantly hovering mother ship.


137 posted on 01/07/2005 10:52:21 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

Man, I just love what you do with words.

BTW, how's your mom and dad?


138 posted on 01/07/2005 10:58:43 AM PST by Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
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To: Quix

Many have no imagination, Quix, and must witness the unknown personally. I too like the DVD very much.


139 posted on 01/07/2005 10:59:29 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: Quix

I don't, for a minute, think that your philosophy of life re science and technology have even largely to do with a careful, reasoned, long-term evaluation of the evidence and a careful calculated settling upon what therefrom is the best match of the evidence for you.

Admittedly, without proof to validate that extraterrestrial conscious beings exist with billion year advanced technology enabling them to create universes they are speculations based on reason and extrapolating what history has demonstrated. Likewise, without proof, to validate the God concept it is speculation.

I'm reasonably confident it has 90%+ to do with the fact that you are hostile to doing and not doing what an Almighty God has asked of you.

Your assumption -- though you call it a fact -- is in error. I'm not hostile to the God concept, nor the people that believe it. I've researched both and arrived at the conclusion that conscious beings understanding nature to control nature supports the speculation that -- aside from the anomaly of us Earthlings dying in an anti-civilization -- the universe is populated with extraterrestrial conscious beings that control macro events of the Universe and create new universes via business and science.

And probably, that doesn't have as much to do with evidence as it does with events and relationships the first 25 years of your life.

A lifetime of research.

140 posted on 01/07/2005 11:06:03 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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