Mr. President, "Disaster Relief" Is Not Yours to Give

Email | December 30, 2004 | Michael A. Peroutka

[MikefromOhio]

LOL

well guess what, the guy you helped get elected twice has written a $350 million dollar check to help these people. I guess we can count you as off of the bandwagon....

[MikefromOhio]

LOL

so lets pull the military out then too!! Woohoo!! We can save money that way!!!

weak really really weak

[SouthTexas]

I have not only the right, but the duty, to question how the excess over 35 mill was acquired and how it will be spent. It was NOT authorized by Congress. You seem to want to ignore the issues.

[MikefromOhio]

LOL

ok whatever man....

I tell you what. You get elected President someday and then when a disaster happens (God forbid) and someone is in need of American aid, you stonewall...

I will laugh all the way to the bank.


I don't think I want to live in an American that does not help friendly nations and governments when they have a need for it. hell we give aid to countries that are not in need of it, now someone does need it and you guys are complaining about it like it will break the country or something.

Simply amazing. and I though the idiots on college football boards could come up with some interesting stuff sometimes.....

If you have a problem with it, move to a country that isnt giving aid out....

[SouthTexas]

You are still not addressing anything.

We are helping, without the assistance of the fed, we have people from this part of the country that have gone to help-without the help of the fed, our military is doing far and above more than any government to government hand out ever will.

[SouthTexas]

JAKARTA : The United States is to dissolve the "core group" of nations it formed to expedite aid for victims of the Asian tsunami disaster and would work under the United Nations.

Is this where you intended our help to end up?

[GAWnCA]

"To: MikeinIraq

JAKARTA : The United States is to dissolve the "core group" of nations it formed to expedite aid for victims of the Asian tsunami disaster and would work under the United Nations.

Is this where you intended our help to end up?

Hey MikeNotInIraq. How's it going to feel wearing the U.N. powder blue uniform and patch? Now that's what I call American!

[GAWnCA]

"Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." --James Madison

You can't get much plainer than that as to what the government can do with tax dollars and relief money. There isn't any such thing.

[solitas]

Re-read the quotes slowly this time - he said that being a presidential sychophant is the wrong thing.

[solitas]

You're talking about me? Stop fondling your daughter long enough to read the relevant postings again. Slowly. Move your lips, if it helps.

Roosevelt's quote says essentially that it is the duty of Americans to police the president and point-out where his words or actions are not for the good of the Nation.

ROOSEVELT WAS ALL FOR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE AND CONTENTION - IF HE WASN'T DOING THE JOB THE PEOPLE EXPECTED OF HIM HE WANTED THEM TO TELL HIM SO.

Go read the quotes again.

[MikefromOhio]

Stop fondling your daughter long enough

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What are you talking about?

I don't have a daughter to fondle!!! Am I being sarcastic? Yep. Why? This entire stupid subject deserves a little (or a lot of) sarcasm.

[SouthTexas]

"The federal government's gross debt as of September 2004 was about $7.4 trillion, or about $25,000 for every man, woman, and child in the country. But that number excludes such items as the gap between promised and funded Social Security and Medicare benefits, veterans' health care, and a range of other unfunded commitments and contingencies that the federal government has pledged to support. If these items are factored in, the current dollar burden for every American rises to about $145,000 per person, or about $350,000 per full-time worker. ...[T]he fiscal policies in place today -- absent substantive entitlement reform or unprecedented changes in tax and/or spending policies -- will result in large, escalating, and persistent deficits that are economically unsustainable over the long term. Without reform, known demographic trends, rising health care costs, and projected growth in federal spending for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid will result in massive fiscal pressures that, if not effectively addressed, could cripple the economy, threaten our national security, and adversely affect the quality of life of Americans in the future." --David Walker, Comptroller General of the United States

The Federalist 05-01 Digest

[queenkathy]

Off subject here...I see from your tagline that you're Out of Baghdad! That's great...So welcome home. Hope that's where you are. I know there could be many stops between getting out of Iraq and getting home.

[MikefromOhio]

Nah I am still in Qatar right now....

waiting on my flight back to the states and filling in on mids for the guys here....

[queenkathy]

Oh great. I should take a guess and say that when you are home, you probably won't be on here for a while. Would I guess right?

[MikefromOhio]

well for the first week or so....

it depends on where the job wants me...I could possibly not get to where my wife is living for another two weeks....but I am sure I will find a way to get on here for a few minutes at some point...

[The_Eaglet]

The real issue here is whether such so-called Federally-funded disaster “relief” is Constitutional.

No, the real issue here is whether the fruits of your labor are your 'property'.

I agree with you both. Federally-socialized redistribution based on income taxation does not fully respect the rights of states and individuals regarding their charitable giving.

[The_Eaglet]

Thanks for posting this.

[WhiteGuy]

"We have the right, as individuals to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity, but as members of Congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money."

Exactly.


I'll not support any candidate who believes otherwise.

[The_Eaglet]

But we most definitely aren't going to subject it to a legistlative process, when the money is needed now. We have more common sense than to do that.

The legal way to bypass the legislative process is for you and me to donate to a relief agency or go there and provide relief ourselves.

The unconstitutional way is to have the government redistribute our earnings abroad without passing a constitutional amendment to cancel the reserved powers of the states and the people (Amendment X).

I prefer the former.