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Posted on 12/30/2004 7:01:16 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
I'm not sure, but I don't think you can have a "pit crew" in CTR like you do in Endurance. I think that's the whole thing with them, you do it all by yourself.
Well, that's a bummer. I really enjoy that part.
Well, the other responses and my reply finally posted over at the other site... (It is ~really~ frustrating that it takes two hours for replies to post)
This is probably the last ~new~ input I'll be able to offer on the subject of Bay and me being able to participate. I am still interested in it, Becky, if you have other posts you'd like to make about the sport, I think we'd all still be interested in hearing about it. It'll be good knowledge for the future.
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Responses:
> Re: Heart rate. A baseline resting pulse is taken at the pre-ride vet check for info. However, in competition your horse must recover to a pulse of 12 or less (in 15 seconds) after ten minutes at a P&R check, or you will lose points. If it is over 16 to 18 (in 15 seconds), the precise rate is pre-determiined by the vet judge before the ride, then your horse is held for another ten minutes. Still not recovered to the 16-18 rate, then the horse should be pulled. Hope this helps.
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> > Bev "saddlepals22" wrote:
If you are a NATRC member, there was an article about banned > substances in the last Hoofprint magazine. NATRC doesn't allow any medication, really, of any kind. I seriously doubt it is allowed, since you can't even put vaseline or desitin on your horse for a rub and compete.....
Carla Brady
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My reply:
I am not a member of NATRC.... I've been inspired to look into it by a friend who has a lot of fun with it. I've competed in other horse sports, and thought it would be a fun thing to do with my husband, who is a relatively new rider with his first horse. He'd benefit from the horsemanship and challenge elements of the sport, and I wondered if I could tag along on my old gelding without being disqualified. I'd be interested in doing this for fun, not necessarily to win points. I am finding out through other web searching that Isoxsuprine is banned in some other disciplines, so I am guessing you are right about the NATRC. Oh well.... The med keeps him sound. I wouldn't take him off of it for benefit of a competition.
Thank you all. Appreciate the replies!
The only way you could tag along with ecurbh is by being a drag rider, and drag riders have to stay behind the competitors, so ecurbh would have to be at the back too. Which isn't a big deal. He wouldn't have other horses pass him:)
Drag riders cannot pass anyone in the division they are dragging for.
Becky
Are you limited to what you can carry? Can you bring a cell phone?
I keep mixing the CTR and endurance up. What's the difference?
I don't mean to offend either:) but I don't see it being any worse taking an out of condition horse on a lenghly pleasure ride and then having to bute to get him over his soreness, vs. getting him in good condition on his meds,and THEN take him off and putting the horse thru a test to see if he could be fine with no meds.
I'm was just suggesting differnt things to try.
Becky
Yeah you can carry a phone. I think the only thing you CAN'T take with you is alcohol:)
Becky
CTR has judged obstacles in addition to P&R checks. They also judge your horsemanship and the safety of your camp. There is a minimum and maximum time for the course, so you get penalized for going too fast as well as too slow. Endurance is really just about who gets to the finish line first with the best conditioned horse.
Well if no alcohol then maybe no need for a cell:') I was just thinking that if I was way behind or got off course, I would want to call because I would be most embarressed if a search party came to get me because I was "late":'). I have to go ride a horse now. Shame on me but I dread it. Once I get on, it's fun but my lesson is at 5 and it takes me at least an hour to get ready:')
Fair enough! If it was really important to me to do this competition, I'd give it a try. He'd be better of in better condition, certainly. It's worth considering whether he could be taken off the meds, I just talked to my vet when he was here about whether there was any health reason (digestive or liver side effects, etc) to see if he is fine without. He didn't name and health reason to not let him stay on them indefinately.
I think I'd be best off to lightly condition him and keep him on his meds and not try to change his regimen for the opportunity to compete in one weekend competition this year. If there were more local events, maybe I'd try harder. What I hope to do instead is just go on lots of nice rides this summer, and maybe I'll be able to compete in NATRC someday. There's still plenty of time even this year to change my mind about that.
Not to change the subject, but I'm changing the subject...
A while back, ya'll were discussing freeze-branding horses as a method of preventing slaughter of stolen horses. Have any of ya'll ever had or known anybody who's had their horses microchipped and if so, is the slaughter industry required to scan for them prior to slaughter? I've thought of having mine done but didn't know if it'd do any good or not.
Hmmm... I don't know if they are required to scan for microchips.
That's what the drag riders are for. Unless you got off trail the drag ridders would always be behind you. If a competitor is moving alot slower then the rest, one drag rider would stay with them while the rest of the drag riders caught up to the rest of the group. Drag riders ride in a group so that if one needs to stop to render assistance there are still others to keep going with the competitors. If you got so far behind that you were disqualified, you COULD finish, or you could stop and be trailered back in. There would be nothing to be embarrassed about. It happens sometimes, a first time rider gets out there and for whatever reason decides to stop. I've been trailered back in before, when I thought my horse was getting too tired.
Becky
Quick question if you are still here? Do I just tug and stop her if she gets rowdy while longing or jerk her to a stop? I checked what she was doing ,and I have been really firm with her before when she needs it but I think I might have been too agressive the last time.
Well, yeah I would stop for my horse of course but me...no way, even if it took all day:') Later.
LOL...I really have trouble imagining you being too aggressive:)
What do you mean by "rowdy"?
IMO:), if she starts to buck, you need to holler a loud firm "whoa" and jerk her nose off, then immediatly start her up again, no pats for looking sad about haveing her nose jerked off:) Do that everytime she bucks. When she does it right, keep her going about 2 circles, whoa her, THEN give her a pat, then go the other direction.
Becky
BTW - I was not considering that to be an example of my good horsemanship, I Buted him because I thought he might have overdone. I believed during the course of the ride that we were doing too much, that it was more than we should do. I get so few opportunities to go these days, that I jump at any chance to go, when the smart thing would be to take things slower, both with ecurbh, and with Bay. As it turned out, it could be he's a lot more capable than I think he is. He did fine. But I buted him that night as a precaution, not because I think it's just as good as being in shape.
Pinging Duchess to post 1952....
Yes ma'am. Well I don't believe they are required to check for microchips but I don't know. A lot of rescue groups and humane societies are doing this on cats and dogs now since so many are chipped but I've not heard of horses being chipped.
Now, it's possible that the owners/breeders of racers are starting to do that but all I know about are the lip tattoos.
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