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Posted on 12/30/2004 7:01:16 PM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

I don't know about long term effects. Sounds like a good trade for her situation.


1,401 posted on 01/09/2005 11:35:29 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

All I know about joint ill is that it's septic arthritis. Can she ask her vet? How has he done so far?


1,402 posted on 01/09/2005 11:37:29 AM PST by Beaker (Obey gravity... it's the law.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Who's our resident vet? Can you ping her? Maybe she'll know.


1,403 posted on 01/09/2005 11:38:25 AM PST by Beaker (Obey gravity... it's the law.)
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To: Beaker

ONce she started treating him and he got over it he hasn't been lame since. I don't know if she has asked the vet about long term effects. I'd say no. She doesn't like to hear things like that:). Just like she didn't like hearing about iodining the umbilical cord, or getting a pregnant mare off fescue. The year after she had this foal, she had another that she left the mare on fescue, because "there isn't that much out there". She had to bottle feed it, and it died at about 4 months. I think it's immune system wasn't strong. Just my guess. He got a cold, and died.

She is now a believer in iodine and no fescue:). Altho she hasn't breed anything since then either.

Becky


1,404 posted on 01/09/2005 11:42:10 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Beaker

If it's like people though, once you develop arthritis you have arthritis. There are things you can do to help with mobility and discomfort but if the joint damaged besides surgery you can't cure it.


1,405 posted on 01/09/2005 11:42:43 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Beaker

LOL...thinking back, she is also one of those that thought studs had to be "older" to breed. She left Sky a stud for quit a while. He's the one that breed the mare she left on fescue, because she didn't think he was old enough to breed. She pushes the enevelope on everything, and learns the hard way. She's teased me on several occasions for being to careful about that sort of stuff:). She thinks I worm more then I need too, shoe more then I need too....on and on, TILL she has a problem. I've always showed the utmost restraint and never once said "I told you so", altho I thought it alot:)

I've helped her sell two of her horses because it drives me crazy that her horses are getting wasted. She really has some nice ones.

Becky


1,406 posted on 01/09/2005 11:47:11 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: CindyDawg; Beaker

HHHMMMMMM...that's interesting. I didn't know joint ill was a type of arthritis. Probably a good chance he could have some problems from it later.

Becky


1,407 posted on 01/09/2005 11:48:32 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

I was going by Beakers post regarding septic arthritis.


1,408 posted on 01/09/2005 11:52:28 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

This is just a guess - since it is an infection and he survived (which is not common) he is probably okay. I think sometimes mares are predisposed to have foals with this, since he's not a mare that's not a concern.

However, the one foal we had with severe epiphysitis is now five and is not sound for any hard work.


1,409 posted on 01/09/2005 11:53:10 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47
I think sometimes mares are predisposed to have foals with this, since he's not a mare that's not a concern.

My understanding of joint ill is that they contract the infection thru their umbilical cord after birth. That's why you spray with iodine.

He has never been lame since she got him over it, but I just wondered if he may have problems later. I did google it and it did say it was septic arthritis. Maybe it will be he wont' stay sound as he gets older.

Becky

1,410 posted on 01/09/2005 12:01:34 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I've always showed the utmost restraint and never once said "I told you so", altho I thought it alot:)

You're so good... The thing about my friend who is like yours, is that she tells me I worry too much, flies by the seat of her pants, throws caution to the wind, and usually gets lucky! Not that I wish her harm, but it seems I've had few tempting "I told you so" moments. Some people are just charmed ;~D

1,411 posted on 01/09/2005 12:01:51 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Duchess47; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I'm reading (groan) and it says two types of illness the first being high fever and fatal without treatment and the second mild fever, lameness, local swelling IF infection settled in the joints which runs a much longer course. Maybe he'll be ok.
1,412 posted on 01/09/2005 12:03:32 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Duchess47; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I'm reading (groan) and it says two types of illness the first being high fever and fatal without treatment and the second mild fever, lameness, local swelling IF infection settled in the joints which runs a much longer course. Maybe he'll be ok.
1,413 posted on 01/09/2005 12:03:33 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Duchess47; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I'm reading (groan) and it says two types of illness the first being high fever and fatal without treatment and the second mild fever, lameness, local swelling IF infection settled in the joints which runs a much longer course. Maybe he'll be ok.
1,414 posted on 01/09/2005 12:03:33 PM PST by CindyDawg
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Sorry about that. I have a 5 yo trying to help me post.


1,415 posted on 01/09/2005 12:04:21 PM PST by CindyDawg
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He did have alot of swelling in his knees. I took quite awhile to get him over it. Several months. I know her vet bill was horrible. That's one reason she won't sell him. She wouldn't break even on him the money she has in him. Makes no sense to me but that's her:) I don't think you can count vet bills, especially ones caused from your own mistakes,in the worth of the horse.

Becky


1,416 posted on 01/09/2005 12:07:55 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Yes, they do get it through their cord after birth, hence one of the reasons for iodine. Some mares have less antibodies in their colostrum than others so their foals are more likely to get an infection than others.

The mare's milk gives protection against a multitude of ills, depending on how good it is and how much there is and how much the baby gets in the first 24hrs or so.
1,417 posted on 01/09/2005 12:08:16 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: CindyDawg

Looks like the 5 year old has posting down okay :)


1,418 posted on 01/09/2005 12:10:29 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

Oh, OK, that makes sense. This mare was very very old and IMO, pretty run down. She had sent the pair over to breed her back when the baby was just, maybe, a week old. I had to call her twice and say this foal is lame. She took them home. I did take our stud over to her place to breed her mare, but was very glad she never got in foal again. I didn't think the mare should be breed, but had agreed to it before I saw the condition of the mare. She'd breed this mare every year for years. I think it was just the next year she had to put her down because she foundered.

Becky


1,419 posted on 01/09/2005 12:12:30 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Duchess47

Do you put antibiotic drops in their eyes after birth?


1,420 posted on 01/09/2005 12:13:10 PM PST by CindyDawg
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