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Posted on 12/24/2004 8:51:48 AM PST by Mo1

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To: Cuttnhorse

Bill Clinton White House

A Winter Solstice Ritual

Somehow I think what they were really doing was emphasize the Pagan festival


81 posted on 12/24/2004 3:17:57 PM PST by restornu (KNEEL TO HEAVEN WITH IT ALL!)
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To: westmex

Are you there.....


82 posted on 12/24/2004 4:09:14 PM PST by restornu (KNEEL TO HEAVEN WITH IT ALL!)
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To: null and void
"*sigh* yes ma'am. *blush*"

*Smooch*

83 posted on 12/24/2004 4:17:15 PM PST by sweetliberty (Just because we CAN do something, doesn't mean we should.)
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To: catpuppy
"I think that the Delta de-icing problem is fixed now."

I do hope so. I don't like my babies flying anyway.

84 posted on 12/24/2004 4:18:04 PM PST by sweetliberty (Just because we CAN do something, doesn't mean we should.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
That's a drag that you're stuck there for Christmas. Is the family nearby? Will you get to be together?

Merry Christmas, Horsie.

85 posted on 12/24/2004 4:19:38 PM PST by sweetliberty (Just because we CAN do something, doesn't mean we should.)
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To: .38sw
"It seems that it is now an act of defiance against the Speech Police to say "Merry Christmas".

I make it a point to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, and most people around here do the same. The only cold responses I've gotten were from a clerk at Hastings and the Salvation Army lady at Walmart. They must not be allowed to say Merry Christmas.

86 posted on 12/24/2004 4:22:38 PM PST by sweetliberty (Just because we CAN do something, doesn't mean we should.)
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To: Mo1

We're fixin' to head out to church, too. See y'all later.


87 posted on 12/24/2004 4:23:44 PM PST by sweetliberty (Just because we CAN do something, doesn't mean we should.)
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To: sweetliberty
Just got back myself ..

WOHOOOO .. The first time in 16 years we were able to get a seat in church ... we left 45 minutes early this year

Now we are going to make ice cream floats for the kids and listen to some tunes

Merry Christmas Y'all


88 posted on 12/24/2004 4:54:29 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: grannie9; Mo1; Conservababe; All

Lottery Winner's Granddaughter Is Buried (Jack Whittaker)
Yahoo ^ | Dec 24, 2004


WINFIELD, W.Va. - Seventeen-year-old Brandi Bragg was laid to rest on Friday, almost two years to the day after her doting grandfather came into the great wealth that some say was Brandi's misfortune.

The only granddaughter of Jack Whittaker, winner of the richest undivided lottery jackpot in U.S. history, was found dead earlier this week of what may have been a drug overdose.

Whittaker and others say her sudden access to vast wealth had brought new friends and dangerous habits.

"Since she won the lottery she had too much money," said Becky Layton, who once took care of Brandi when she lived with her grandparents. "I could point fingers all day long. The money is the root of it all, I would say."

Brandi had her own apartment and several vehicles, including a Hummer and a Cadillac Escalade — indications of a teen with too much money, Layton said.

"The very first few weeks after she won the lottery, they would get $10,000 out during the day. It was between all of them. Her mom would get out $5,000 and Brandi would only get out five more," Layton said.

Brandi was a quiet 15-year-old with a big smile when her already-wealthy grandfather won a $314.9 million Powerball jackpot on Christmas Day 2002. He took his winnings in a $113 million lump sum.

Her Dec. 5 death was the latest in a series of misfortunes that have befallen Whittaker's family since then.

Among them: Whittaker's home and his vehicles have been hit with a rash of break-ins. He was arrested twice this year for drunken driving, and a judge ordered him to check into a rehab center by Jan. 2. And in September, an 18-year-old friend of Brandi's, Jesse Tribble, was found dead in Whittaker's house from an overdose of cocaine, oxycodone and methadone. (Tribble once claimed that he had been hired by Whittaker to be Brandi's driver at $500 a day.)

Brandi's body was discovered Monday, wrapped in a sheet and plastic tarp, alongside a junked van at the home of her boyfriend, Brandon Crosier, near the town of Scott Depot. State Police believe she died at the home, and her boyfriend put the body outside.

"All I know is she OD'd and Brandon freaked out," Brandon's father, Steve Crosier, told reporters.

No charges have been filed. Investigators said they are awaiting toxicology results and have yet to disclose the cause of death. But on Thursday, Whittaker said: "All of the problems I have had are because of my granddaughter's friends, her drug-using friends. I'm going to find them and put them in jail. It's not her fault; it's the people who sold drugs because they weren't taken off the street."

While growing up, Brandi moved between her mother's home in Hinton, a former railroad community of 2,800, and Whittaker's home in Scott Depot. Her father died when she was young, and her mother at one point was treated for cancer.

During Friday's service in a Hinton funeral home, Brandi was remembered for the 17 things she loved, one for each year of her life. They included Whittaker, whom she called PawPaw, shopping, her cell phone, roses, and the rapper Nelly.

In an interview with The Associated Press last year, Whittaker said he regretted the toll the jackpot was taking on his family. Brandi had lost most of her friends, he said.

"They want her for her money and not for her good personality," he said. "She's the most bitter 16-year-old I know."

89 posted on 12/24/2004 5:15:56 PM PST by restornu (KNEEL TO HEAVEN WITH IT ALL!)
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To: whoever; noone; SOMEONE; pluto; saturn; Mars; moon

Chinese pirates batter German toys

By Ray Furlong
BBC News, Seiffen, east Germany


Volker Flath's workshops are a hive of Christmas activity.
In one corner, he turns out Christmas trees that are each just a few centimetres tall, while nearby a colleague works on a noisy lathe producing parts for a Christmas pyramid.

Elsewhere, an employee sits furiously painting hundreds of Santa Claus figures in minute detail.

It is like this every year for the woodcarvers of Seiffen, a village of just 2,000 people, which has around 100 producers of wooden toys and ornaments.

"We've got three generations working in our business," says Mr Flath.

"My father still works here, I do, and my son is an apprentice. The training period lasts three years."

Seiffen has been home to the woodcarving industry since the tin mines were exhausted in the 18th Century.

Now though, the tradition is coming under threat from cheap Chinese imitations.

Government campaign

"It's a problem.

"These imitations cause huge losses to the toy-makers, and the customers now don't know what they're buying," says Mr Flath.

"I can only say: be careful! Check what you buy has a certificate of authenticity, and buy it from a specialist shop.

"There are ways to tell the difference."

The problem has been taken head-on by one of the region's largest manufacturers, KWO.


It has recently won a seven-year legal battle to prevent the import of just one particular product.
Sitting in an Aladdin's Cave of elaborate music boxes, pyramids and "smokers" - ornaments of men smoking pipes, in which incense can be burned - export manager Lennart Brauser-Jung says he is expecting more litigation, from Germany and abroad.


"The German importer is no longer allowed to import and sell this product, an imitation Smoker, to Germany.

"But we think it's still being produced in China and sold to other countries like the United States," he says.

"The imitations look very similar but they're not as good as the original.

"For example, they use different paints, the body has stains on it, and on parts of the figurine you can see glue."

Cut-price imports

Chinese products now account for more than half of all German toy imports, so it is no surprise the woodcarvers of Seiffen should also fall prey to them.

The German government has just launched a campaign warning of safety problems with many of the toys.

Klaus Piepel, from the German charity Misereor, recently visited Chinese workers in Shenzhen - and says they work under sweatshop conditions.


"The factories are mostly staffed by migrant labourers who get 50-60 euros (£35-£42) a month.
"They work 14-hour days, seven days a week, without breaks," he says.


"Traditional handcrafted wooden toys are also being reproduced in this way, and at such a low cost that the German manufacturers can't compete."

But the issue is especially important for Seiffen, and the Erzgebirge mountain region where it lies.

The local unemployment rate is 20%.

So the industry and the tourists it attracts are a crucial boost for the economy.

Also, the small family-run businesses often lack the resources of large toy-makers to fight the competition, on the market or in court.

It is a cruel irony that the local toy industry was first successful because of its low prices.

The former miners turned their hands to making first utensils, then toys and ornaments.

Preserving traditions

And soon they were exporting to the whole of Europe.

Their success seemed in no doubt for generations.

"We remained a family business even under the communists, like many in Seiffen," says Volker Flath.

"They needed us for getting hard currency from the West."

As we spoke, a light snow was falling outside.

Tourists were drinking mulled wine on the village's chocolate box main street, illuminated by multi-coloured Christmas lights.

In the evening, a mouth-organ choir held a concert at the village's unique, octagonal Baroque church, another tourist attraction.

Even here, there are hand-carved wooden toys on the walls.

The whole region lives from traditions that it is now fighting to preserve.

90 posted on 12/24/2004 6:16:31 PM PST by restornu (KNEEL TO HEAVEN WITH IT ALL!)
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To: restornu; everyone

Goodnight Resty,...all. We had a wonderful evening. Talked to the kids, and all my extended family, and had a wonderful time listening to new CD's and eating some good food.

Merry Christmas to all.. and to all a Goodnight!


91 posted on 12/24/2004 6:54:29 PM PST by grannie9
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To: grannie9; restornu; All

Whew...one more day to go.

Dishwasher totally over-filled and running.

I told everyone that next year it's gonna be a cruise ship - or die.

They did not disagree.

I guess they wish to keep breathing.


92 posted on 12/24/2004 7:10:11 PM PST by lodwick
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To: mysterious; grannie9; lodwick; prairiebreeze; Sundog; fanfan
Huygens' campaign will begin on Christmas Day, when Cassini is due to fire retaining bolts holding down its 319kg passenger.

NEW PROB ON CHRISTMAS

The Huygens spacecraft is about to begin the final leg of its journey to Saturn's enigmatic moon Titan.

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Revelation 13: The English King James version Bible code - Part 12a - Is there Life outside Earth in our Solar System - on Mars, Europa, or Titan?


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Pseudepigrapha
... of Enoch (1968); GW Nickelsburg, Jewish Literature between the Bible and the ... mould,
Uranus becomes Noah; Shem, Ham, and Japheth are Saturn, Titan, and Japetus ...


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Titans will return to Earth, as in the past. They'll claim to be from Saturn's moon Titan. It's the only planet or moon in our system with a substantial atmosphere. It's covered by a thick cloud that conveniently blocks our view of the surface. And the timing of all this fits with the Cassini probe mission to Saturn/Titan in 2004. Having a hard time believing NASA would have anything to do with Masonic symbolism? Go to www.enterprisemission.com and look at the facts outlined there. I'll let you decide for yourself as I did.


I am an investigator by nature and look for clues to understanding history and things from the pass even if it is to peek in on someone elses gathering pieces I need not agree with their interpretation only gather knowledge

Con't

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How the Hellenes were created


The second generation Titan Prometheus was initially not punished, as his relatives such as Atlas who participated in the Titanomachy, a fight with the father of all Gods Zeus. Prometheus was asked of forming man from water and earth, which he did, but in the process, became fonder of men than Zeus had anticipated. Zeus didn't share Prometheus' feelings and wanted to keep men from having power, especially of fire. Prometheus cared more for man than for the wrath of the increasingly powerful and autocratic Zeus, so he stole fire from Zeus' lightning, concealed it in a hollow stalk of fennel, and brought it to man. He also stole skills from Hephaestus and Athena to gave to man.

The Worship of Saturn


CONNECT THE DOTS....TITAN...SATURN...PAGAN ....NASA.....BIBLE....SATURNALIA....CHRISTMAS.... ETC. CONNECT THE DOTS OF HISTORY!

93 posted on 12/24/2004 7:35:43 PM PST by restornu (KNEEL TO HEAVEN WITH IT ALL!)
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I see this as a difining time....of the forces of Good and Evil....in ancient of days the blending of the Universal Celbration of Pagans and Christians....the Bible reference to Titans etc...now NASA using symbols of History and lauching a prob
on Dec. 25 2004!

It is worth reading and ponding knowledge to gain insight and wisdom!


94 posted on 12/24/2004 7:57:04 PM PST by restornu (KNEEL TO HEAVEN WITH IT ALL!)
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To: Mo1; reg45; Lakeshark; yall

I worked all day -- a lot of last minute shoppers, but not too bad. Now after a little nap and some awful pizza I'll go to the neighbors' for eggnog.
Be HAPPY!

(yes reg, Gavin is my second son - he is 20 yrs old.)

My oldest son, Grant, just called from Corpus Christi -- they have 1 and a half inches of snow and it's still coming down!! AMAZING!


95 posted on 12/24/2004 8:08:56 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA; All; yall

A great tag - We childproofed our home, but they still keep getting in.


96 posted on 12/24/2004 8:14:01 PM PST by lodwick
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To: ValerieUSA

Hey there Val

Carly was all upset tonight .. she thinks Santa won't come if there is no snow outside

I kept trying to tell her that it didn't mater, but she wouldn't listen

Though I'm sure she'll feel better in the morning when she heads downstairs

Have fun at you're neighbors and don't drink too much eggnog


97 posted on 12/24/2004 8:23:56 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Teev
~*pInG fOr LaTeR rEaDiNg AnD bEcAuSe I'm BoReD wAiTiNg FoR yOu To GeT hOmE fRoM wOrK!!!*~
98 posted on 12/24/2004 8:31:55 PM PST by Skylus (the gun is no more responsible for killing people than the spoon is for making Rosie O'Donnell fat)
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To: All

Hey everyone! I'm sitting here debating wether or not to post a really semi-funny crazy Christmas poem about the reality statistics of Santa's visit to every home across the world...

then again... if Santa might be on here, and he would read it, and get mad, and take back my new stereo... ;)


99 posted on 12/24/2004 8:35:22 PM PST by Skylus (the gun is no more responsible for killing people than the spoon is for making Rosie O'Donnell fat)
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To: All; Teev
Now THIS is what I want for Christmas...


100 posted on 12/24/2004 8:41:47 PM PST by Skylus (the gun is no more responsible for killing people than the spoon is for making Rosie O'Donnell fat)
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